1st, does BB realize that just because the Noles are off that doesn't mean he is?
I was checking out the ACC, the Noles have it gravy through the rest of the conference games. I can not imagine they could lose until the last one against the Gators... should be a good one. And I have probably asked before, but how does the ACC decide division winners? Conference record, or division? (Clemson has to play Ga Tech and UNC who have a shot...but they are both in the COASTAL division. I guess what I am wondering, is the Atlantic Division already decided?)
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Re: ACC?
Sorry..I have been off. I've been living on the Blue Gold West Virginia site. The conference expansion drama is really over the top on that site.
Clemson would have to lose twice and FSU go undefeated for FSU to go the the ACC CG. Ain't happening.
FSU should have beaten Clemson although the loss was by 5 with a young puppy QB. Clemson had five drives extended by penaslty on the third/fourth down...(running into the kicker, two PI calls, and a face mask on a tackle. Clemson scored on two of them.
FSU is in a funny place...played close games against the Coaches Poll current #1 and #8...but still lost. The Coaches gave them credit for the close games and have kept FSU ranked.
GT's running game is good..until they run into a top notch defense.
Clemson would have to lose twice and FSU go undefeated for FSU to go the the ACC CG. Ain't happening.
FSU should have beaten Clemson although the loss was by 5 with a young puppy QB. Clemson had five drives extended by penaslty on the third/fourth down...(running into the kicker, two PI calls, and a face mask on a tackle. Clemson scored on two of them.
FSU is in a funny place...played close games against the Coaches Poll current #1 and #8...but still lost. The Coaches gave them credit for the close games and have kept FSU ranked.
GT's running game is good..until they run into a top notch defense.
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Re: ACC?
I thought it was likely 2 with the head-to-head going Clemson's way. Yeah, I don't see them losing 2.
Never been to any WVU message board. Don't know that I could stand it, Eer fans come mostly in 2 flavors...WVU NC/BCS Bowl run and The Sky is Falling in Morgantown!
Never been to any WVU message board. Don't know that I could stand it, Eer fans come mostly in 2 flavors...WVU NC/BCS Bowl run and The Sky is Falling in Morgantown!
Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves.
If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.
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If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.
R. Reagan
Re: ACC?
Mathematically, nothing is set in stone. Maryland and Wake Forrest control their own destiny in the Atlantic. Realistically, Clemson would have to drop 2 of their remaining 5 conference games to open the door for Fla. St because they own the head to head.
As for the Atlantic, it's looking like Georgia Tech's to do with as they please.
Two-Team Tie
1. Head-to-head competition between the two tied teams
2. Records of the tied teams within the division.
3. Head-to-head competition versus the team within the division with the best overall record.(divisional) Conference record and proceeding though the division. Multiple ties within the division broken from first to last.
4. Overall record versus all common non-divisional opponents.
5. Combined record vs. all non-divisional teams.
6. Record versus common non-divisional teams based on their order of finish (divisional and non-divisional) and proceeding through other common non-divisional teams based on their order of finish within their division.
7. The tied team with the highest ranking in the Bowl Championship Series Standings following the end of regular season games shall be the divisional representative in the ACC Championship Game.
8. The representative shall be chosen by a draw.
Three (or More) Team Tie
(Once tie has been reduced to two teams, the two-team tiebreaker format is used)
1. Combined head-to-head record among the tied teams
2. Records of the tied teams within the division.
3. Head-to-head competition vs. the team within the division with the best overall (divisional or conference) record, and proceeding through the division. Multiple ties within the division will be broken first to last.
4. Overall record for non-divisional teams.
5. Combined record versus all common non-divisional teams.
6. Record versus common non-divisional with the best overall Conference (divisional) and non-divisional record and proceeding through the other common non-divisional teams based on their order of finish within the division.
7. The tied team with the highest ranking in the Bowl Championship Series Standings following the conclusion of regular season games shall be the divisional representative in the ACC Championship Game, unless the second of the tied teams is ranked within five-or-fewer places of the highest ranked tied team. In this case, the head-to-head results of the top two ranked tied teams shall determine the representative in the ACC Championship Game.
8. The representative shall be chosen by a draw.
As for the Atlantic, it's looking like Georgia Tech's to do with as they please.
Two-Team Tie
1. Head-to-head competition between the two tied teams
2. Records of the tied teams within the division.
3. Head-to-head competition versus the team within the division with the best overall record.(divisional) Conference record and proceeding though the division. Multiple ties within the division broken from first to last.
4. Overall record versus all common non-divisional opponents.
5. Combined record vs. all non-divisional teams.
6. Record versus common non-divisional teams based on their order of finish (divisional and non-divisional) and proceeding through other common non-divisional teams based on their order of finish within their division.
7. The tied team with the highest ranking in the Bowl Championship Series Standings following the end of regular season games shall be the divisional representative in the ACC Championship Game.
8. The representative shall be chosen by a draw.
Three (or More) Team Tie
(Once tie has been reduced to two teams, the two-team tiebreaker format is used)
1. Combined head-to-head record among the tied teams
2. Records of the tied teams within the division.
3. Head-to-head competition vs. the team within the division with the best overall (divisional or conference) record, and proceeding through the division. Multiple ties within the division will be broken first to last.
4. Overall record for non-divisional teams.
5. Combined record versus all common non-divisional teams.
6. Record versus common non-divisional with the best overall Conference (divisional) and non-divisional record and proceeding through the other common non-divisional teams based on their order of finish within the division.
7. The tied team with the highest ranking in the Bowl Championship Series Standings following the conclusion of regular season games shall be the divisional representative in the ACC Championship Game, unless the second of the tied teams is ranked within five-or-fewer places of the highest ranked tied team. In this case, the head-to-head results of the top two ranked tied teams shall determine the representative in the ACC Championship Game.
8. The representative shall be chosen by a draw.
Re: ACC?
1. The ACC is pretty strong this year. Much more than any recent years in my short memory.
2. I hate the word systemic mainly due to a bunch of do nothing tyrannous politicians that used the word to......NEVER MIND....
2. I hate the word systemic mainly due to a bunch of do nothing tyrannous politicians that used the word to......NEVER MIND....
They’re either going to run the ball here or their going to pass it.
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See, well ya see, the thing is, he should have caught that ball. But the ball is bigger than his hands.
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The fewer rules a coach has, the fewer rules there are for players to break.
See, well ya see, the thing is, he should have caught that ball. But the ball is bigger than his hands.
- John Madden
Re: ACC?
billybud wrote:Sorry..I have been off. I've been living on the Blue Gold West Virginia site. The conference expansion drama is really over the top on that site.
GT's running game is good..until they run into a top notch defense.
1. Sounds like a blast
2. This is why, for the first time in 12 years....GT is gonna beat Georgia and not just at the last minute....it will be the most convincing victory over the Dawgs in probably 15 years.
I'm gonna miss Richt.
Kirby Smart.....
They’re either going to run the ball here or their going to pass it.
The fewer rules a coach has, the fewer rules there are for players to break.
See, well ya see, the thing is, he should have caught that ball. But the ball is bigger than his hands.
- John Madden
The fewer rules a coach has, the fewer rules there are for players to break.
See, well ya see, the thing is, he should have caught that ball. But the ball is bigger than his hands.
- John Madden
Re: ACC?
The ACC is just different this year. Clemson is playing like VT does normally.
Atlantic
VT's offense was exposed badly. They'll probably still win a lot of games because they'll have better athletes than most of their opponents but the ACC is definitely not looking like it belongs to them this year.
Georgia Tech looks to be on a tear but they have a gimmick offense that plays right into VT's defense. If their defense can make enough stops their offense will find a way to score. Their biggest gimmick is a 6'5" receiver with a 40"+ vertical.
North Carolina has the defense to beat VT and enough weapons to score. If they beat VT and VT beats GT they could worm their way into the ACC CCG.
Virginia isn't doing much but they have enough defense to hold the hokies. If they take out the hokies in the rivalry game it could be sweet revenge for years past and keep VT out of the CCG.
Miami comes in this week and their defense is ranked higher than Clemson's who kept VT to 3 points in Blacksburg. Might be a feather in their cap and the storm that tears out the heart of Blacksburg.
Duke who?
The Atlantic conference is going to be between VT and GT. UNC can sneak in if they beat VT and VT & Clemson beat GT.
The Coastal
The coastal belongs to Clemson right now. GT has the only real shot to beat them but that would still mean they would take the Coastal title. Wake, and Maryland have a mathematical shot but not much of a realistic one. If GT takes out Clemson and UNC or Wake get an opportunistic win, either by being overlooked or a let down win, it could open the door for FSU.
What do you do in FSU? Do you take Manuel back or go with Trickett? Guess we'll find out Saturday.
Atlantic
VT's offense was exposed badly. They'll probably still win a lot of games because they'll have better athletes than most of their opponents but the ACC is definitely not looking like it belongs to them this year.
Georgia Tech looks to be on a tear but they have a gimmick offense that plays right into VT's defense. If their defense can make enough stops their offense will find a way to score. Their biggest gimmick is a 6'5" receiver with a 40"+ vertical.
North Carolina has the defense to beat VT and enough weapons to score. If they beat VT and VT beats GT they could worm their way into the ACC CCG.
Virginia isn't doing much but they have enough defense to hold the hokies. If they take out the hokies in the rivalry game it could be sweet revenge for years past and keep VT out of the CCG.
Miami comes in this week and their defense is ranked higher than Clemson's who kept VT to 3 points in Blacksburg. Might be a feather in their cap and the storm that tears out the heart of Blacksburg.
Duke who?
The Atlantic conference is going to be between VT and GT. UNC can sneak in if they beat VT and VT & Clemson beat GT.
The Coastal
The coastal belongs to Clemson right now. GT has the only real shot to beat them but that would still mean they would take the Coastal title. Wake, and Maryland have a mathematical shot but not much of a realistic one. If GT takes out Clemson and UNC or Wake get an opportunistic win, either by being overlooked or a let down win, it could open the door for FSU.
What do you do in FSU? Do you take Manuel back or go with Trickett? Guess we'll find out Saturday.
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Re: ACC?
UNC has intrigued me this year. They have looked strong from what I have seen, but there is something there that seems a little off at the same time...some sloppiness, some punch missing here and there. When it looks like the opposition is about to katy bar the door...they kind of nod off. I want to see them over the next few weeks.
Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves.
If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.
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If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.
R. Reagan
Re: ACC?
I wasn't impressed with North Carolina against Louisville today, but I think they have a shot to make some noise. I haven't been impressed with the defenses in the conference this year. Maryland, Florida State, Wake Forest, NC State, Georgia Tech, Miami, and Virginia Tech haven't looked good on that side of the ball. I think Clemson / Georgia Tech though is the likeliest championship game.
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Vileborg wrote:The ACC is just different this year. Clemson is playing like VT does normally.
Miami comes in this week and their defense is ranked higher than Clemson's who kept VT to 3 points in Blacksburg. Might be a feather in their cap and the storm that tears out the heart of Blacksburg.
A storm came into Blacksburg alright but the team and the crowd responded. RB David Wilson 23 carries for 128 yards. QB Logan Thomas 23-25 for 310yds, 3 Passing TD's and two rushing including the game winner with 50 secs to go after orchestrating a 77 yard drive in under two minutes in which they actually ran the ball to kill the clock. Miami took a timeout with :05 to go to discuss their final play and the stadium started playing "Enter Sandman". The stadium went into a frenzy. If you've never seen it google Va Tech and "Enter Sandman". Unbelievable. This calls for lots of celebration!!!
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