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NCAA versus EA
Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 10:25 pm
by donovan
My legal opinions are pretty well confined to OJ was guilty. Well, there are others that are equally non-consequential. So as to the following law suit I present this as a matter of interest, (I have a disclaimer: A son has his name on three years of the games, although his likeness is not accurate for two of the years, wrong race...but the name and number were right). I do think the NCAA does not like the fact they may have to become accountable for the exploitation of athletes that goes beyond providing a level playing field for all to participate.
http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/9486048/ncaa-not-renewing-contract-ea-sports-video-gamesPS I think the NCAA may have to look at the future differently, but can not imagine they should be held responsible for how this played up until this point. I can be persuaded either way.
Re: NCAA versus EA
Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 11:23 pm
by Spence
I think if the NCAA allowed likenesses of players to be exploited in the games they have broken their own rules.
They should pay a fee to the people who's likeness they allowed to be used. I'm not for paying players to play football. They traded the game for a scholarship. But this is outside that and shouldn't be part of the price of a scholarship. These players aren't the property of the NCAA, but the NCAA treats them like it.
Re: NCAA versus EA
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 12:43 am
by Eric
Well, what EA Sports does is basically have the player in the game, just without the name. Texas A&M's QB is "QB #2", 6'2, 205lb redshirt sophomore that can scramble
Most college athletes don't care. Just about everybody likes playing as themselves. This is evident considering Sam Keller and one former basketball player are the only guys to have ever filed a complaint. What EA Sports has done with the new generation of consoles is to allow users to share downloadable roster files. This means that guys or groups of guys can sit around and name all of the players who already have mostly correct attributes, add transfers, remove guys kicked off teams, name coaches, etc. Then they can send the file out to anybody who wants one. I download the named rosters because it's more fun to play that way. I play the games, so I'm biased. I don't think the players are harmed in any way by this.
Re: NCAA versus EA
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 12:46 am
by Eric
I'm glad that EA said they still plan on making the new games, just without the NCAA involved. I guess every school deals with their individual licensing through the Collegiate Licensing Corporation, so it sounds like they'll still get to use all conference, bowl, logo, and team information.
Re: NCAA versus EA
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 7:55 am
by Spence
I still think that money from this should go to the players. At least collectively. The schools or the NCAA should have the right to use their likeness beyond the football field without compensating them. It is wrong.
Re: NCAA versus EA
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 10:08 am
by billybud
If they are not using player's names, I see no problem.
If they don't use a "likeness" in the artwork and don't issue names, I can't see the players having equity.
I think it is misguided to assume that college players should all be paid just because some money is made off of college football.
What's next? Maybe a percentage of gate receipts at the stadium, signing bonuses, agents, endorsements...NFL junior?
Bah!
Re: NCAA versus EA
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 11:48 am
by Spence
billybud wrote:If they are not using player's names, I see no problem.
If they don't use a "likeness" in the artwork and don't issue names, I can't see the players having equity.
I think it is misguided to assume that college players should all be paid just because some money is made off of college football.
What's next? Maybe a percentage of gate receipts at the stadium, signing bonuses, agents, endorsements...NFL junior?
Bah!
The gate reciepts and such are part of the scholarship agreement. They don't use their names but they use the players exact height, weight, and number. At some point it moves way beyond a scholarship agreement.
Re: NCAA versus EA
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 12:48 pm
by donovan
Re: NCAA versus EA
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 3:12 pm
by billybud
Yep...Today is not a day that I care....got bad test results this morning. A radiation regime is in my near future.
That might slow down my planned migration to North Carolina a little.
Re: NCAA versus EA
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 3:46 pm
by Cane from the Bend
Sorry to here that Billybud. I will hope & wish the best for you.
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Re: NCAA versus EA
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 4:49 pm
by billybud
Thanks...
Re: NCAA versus EA
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 10:09 pm
by Eric
Sorry to hear about that, Billybud. I hope it's a speedy recovery.
Re: NCAA versus EA
Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 12:23 am
by donovan
Dang...My thoughts are with you, my friend. Donovan
Re: NCAA versus EA
Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 9:41 am
by RazorHawk
billybud, hoping for the best.
Re: NCAA versus EA
Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 9:48 pm
by Spence
billybud wrote:Yep...Today is not a day that I care....got bad test results this morning. A radiation regime is in my near future.
That might slow down my planned migration to North Carolina a little.
Sorry to hear that. Good luck with the fight my friend.