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I believe there are two entities that can put a stop to this kind of stuff while preserving ‘COLLEGE ATHLETICS’……. One is the BIG TEN CONFERENCE, as it did back when the ACC went spinning off in outer space a few years ago, and the other is Donald Trump.



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I don't think the Big Ten is any more committed to fixing anything than the SEC

Spence wrote:I don't think the Big Ten is any more committed to fixing anything than the SEC

I’m a believer that the best indicator of future performance is past performance, but realize through experience, that doesn’t always happen. The BigTen has stepped up twice to address major issues in College Athletics. Once during the ACC’s misguided venture, and more recently when the PAC12 collapsed.

To me, the whole of College Athletics is more important than the whims of donors, ambitious Conference Commissioners and the programming and profits of TV Networks.

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But…….. to your point.

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Yep. The Big Ten isn't the white knight. They will do what is in their best interest.

Spence wrote:Yep. The Big Ten isn't the white knight. They will do what is in their best interest.

Which is exactly what I’m expecting them to do, just as many of the SEC Coaches did.




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Mountainman wrote:

Spence wrote:Yep. The Big Ten isn't the white knight. They will do what is in their best interest.

Which is exactly what I’m expecting them to do, just as many of the SEC Coaches did.

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Honestly, I do not believe they will do what is in their own best interest ...

Rather, I believe they will do what they have convinced themselves is what is in their best interest.

The Big 10 & SEC are basing their hopes on the premise that the general College Football viewer base will stop watching their favored teams, and start watching the two mega conferences after they split away from the rest of the country.

Their hubris is denying the truth shouting back at them. The truth that they seem perplexed by, when they receive push back against the Big Two Rule model.

Most of the fans of teams outside of the SEC & Big 10 do not watch those games, unless there is an indicator that suggests a shake up in the rankings. People watch Big Ten & SEC games hoping to see a Big Boy fail, so it helps their Big XII, ACC or Group of 5 Team move up in the polls.

Remove their schools from the major college football playoff picture, and watch those ratings plummet.

The common fan is not going to give up their team to follow two mega conferences who cut them out.

But the Big Ten and SEC executives don't want to hear that. They prefer to believe, they are the sport.

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“Rather, I believe they will do what they have convinced themselves is what is in their best interest.” ~ Cane


………. and what has history shown us about the consequences of that kind of decision making?????

Unintended Consequences




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We have seen the future last season...with ABC playing SEC games all Saturday...The top 100 games most watched were dominated by the SEC and Big Ten...with the SEC slaying the ratings.

ABC stacked its lineup with SEC triple-headers most Saturdays, and viewers rewarded that partnership by parking their remote on ABC and leaving it there all day. SEC programs made a collective 82 appearances among the top 100 games to the Big Ten's 56. A year ago, the number was 66-65 in favor of the SEC, even when using the 2024 alignment.

That is correct. The SEC had 8 or the top 10 most watched teams. Only Ohio State and Michigan cracked the top 10 for the B10. The SEC had 589,013,000 viewers compared to the B1G's 471,700,000. Georgia was the king of the hill at #1

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And remove those other viewers' vested interest in why they were watching these games, outside of "Because it was on", you are likely to see a grand dip.

Maybe people will continue to watch. But the moment the illusion of inclusion is erased, the common fan will lose interest in a hurry.

Putting numbers next to logos, whether deserved or not, is going to boost ratings.

Marketing game off of the Bigger Picture, and what it means going forward, is flavor for the entire country.

Eliminating half of the teams from the conversation before the season begins ... well, that's just foolhardy arrogance.

It may be what they and the network executives want. But it is a gamble with major consequences should the ebb of the undertone pull in the opposite direction.

The temperament of the viewer base is starting to be felt. The problem is the conference commissioners are coming out an saying "I do not understand the scrutiny."

Of course they do.

They just do not want us to see it any other way than they would draw it up.

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Cane from the Bend wrote:------------------------------------------------------------

And remove those other viewers' vested interest in why they were watching these games, outside of "Because it was on", you are likely to see a grand dip.

Maybe people will continue to watch. But the moment the illusion of inclusion is erased, the common fan will lose interest in a hurry.

Putting numbers next to logos, whether deserved or not, is going to boost ratings.

Marketing game off of the Bigger Picture, and what it means going forward, is flavor for the entire country.

Eliminating half of the teams from the conversation before the season begins ... well, that's just foolhardy arrogance.

It may be what they and the network executives want. But it is a gamble with major consequences should the ebb of the undertone pull in the opposite direction.

The temperament of the viewer base is starting to be felt. The problem is the conference commissioners are coming out an saying "I do not understand the scrutiny."

Of course they do.

They just do not want us to see it any other way than they would draw it up.

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……… Greg Sankey can tell you what happens when others see it a different way than it’s drawn up. As he found out at his Conference Meeting with the SEC Coaches and again during his ‘Golfing Trip’to Washington DC at the invitation of the President and the former Athletics Director at Notre Dame.

One must use caution and not mistake flashes of light and booming noises in the distance as a thunderstorm…… when it’s actually Cannon Fire delivering a projectile over your Bow.

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Mountainman wrote:

Cane from the Bend wrote:------------------------------------------------------------

And remove those other viewers' vested interest in why they were watching these games, outside of "Because it was on", you are likely to see a grand dip.

Maybe people will continue to watch. But the moment the illusion of inclusion is erased, the common fan will lose interest in a hurry.

Putting numbers next to logos, whether deserved or not, is going to boost ratings.

Marketing game off of the Bigger Picture, and what it means going forward, is flavor for the entire country.

Eliminating half of the teams from the conversation before the season begins ... well, that's just foolhardy arrogance.

It may be what they and the network executives want. But it is a gamble with major consequences should the ebb of the undertone pull in the opposite direction.

The temperament of the viewer base is starting to be felt. The problem is the conference commissioners are coming out an saying "I do not understand the scrutiny."

Of course they do.

They just do not want us to see it any other way than they would draw it up.

……… Greg Sankey can tell you what happens when others see it a different way than it’s drawn up. As he found out at his Conference Meeting with the SEC Coaches and again during his ‘Golfing Trip’to Washington DC at the invitation of the President and the former Athletics Director at Notre Dame.

One must use caution and not mistake flashes of light and booming noises in the distance as a thunderstorm…… when it’s actually Cannon Fire delivering a projectile over your Bow.

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Here's a good example of what I mean {that part of this conversation starts @ 7:09 in the video}
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Oq4Ug4Mn7Y

When you have 365 Sports exacerbating the general public's sentiment on the subject, then maybe it's time to reexamine your course.

This is Sports Media taking to Social Media in calling you out.

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Cane from the Bend wrote:

Mountainman wrote:

Cane from the Bend wrote:------------------------------------------------------------

And remove those other viewers' vested interest in why they were watching these games, outside of "Because it was on", you are likely to see a grand dip.

Maybe people will continue to watch. But the moment the illusion of inclusion is erased, the common fan will lose interest in a hurry.

Putting numbers next to logos, whether deserved or not, is going to boost ratings.

Marketing game off of the Bigger Picture, and what it means going forward, is flavor for the entire country.

Eliminating half of the teams from the conversation before the season begins ... well, that's just foolhardy arrogance.

It may be what they and the network executives want. But it is a gamble with major consequences should the ebb of the undertone pull in the opposite direction.

The temperament of the viewer base is starting to be felt. The problem is the conference commissioners are coming out an saying "I do not understand the scrutiny."

Of course they do.

They just do not want us to see it any other way than they would draw it up.

……… Greg Sankey can tell you what happens when others see it a different way than it’s drawn up. As he found out at his Conference Meeting with the SEC Coaches and again during his ‘Golfing Trip’to Washington DC at the invitation of the President and the former Athletics Director at Notre Dame.

One must use caution and not mistake flashes of light and booming noises in the distance as a thunderstorm…… when it’s actually Cannon Fire delivering a projectile over your Bow.

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Here's a good example of what I mean {that part of this conversation starts @ 7:09 in the video}
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Oq4Ug4Mn7Y

When you have 365 Sports exacerbating the general public's sentiment on the subject, then maybe it's time to reexamine your course.

This is Sports Media taking to Social Media in calling you out.

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Good stuff Cane…….. obviously I’m in agreement with these guys in that the FIRST PRIORITY MUST BE ‘THE GAME OF COLLEGE FOOTBALL

I believe at this point in time leadership and direction are critical…… and judging by what’s already happened and the direction things are going, College Football and College Athletics in general are at risk.

I see NO WE, only ME, That must change…… I had mixed feelings after Nick Saban approached President Trump, but seeing that the self governing attempt (NCAA) and the schools has failed on many fronts, I am hopeful the FEDS step in.

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