Rankings

[WoVeU]

This is the time of year that the pollsters just kill me. Didn't SC beat Bama soundly...do they each not have one loss? Yet there Bama is ahead of them. Hey, it was just a game, the on field stuff is just there to talk about, we know better!!!

There is way too much "Darlingism" in the polls!

[Dossenator]

I agree...I will have SC ahead of Bama in my poll. Florida is still in the top 25 with back to back losses...only a hand full of teams can lose 2 in a row and still be ranked.

[WoVeU]

I agree...I will have SC ahead of Bama in my poll. Florida is still in the top 25 with back to back losses...only a hand full of teams can lose 2 in a row and still be ranked.

I would have struggled with placing Florida, yesterday was the best they had looked to me.

[RazorHawk]

I will have Bama ahead of South Carolina. If they played next Saturday in TUSCALOOSA, I would expect a different result. If South Carolina keeps winning, it will take care of itself.

I will also have Iowa ranked ahead of Arizona. Arizona did beat Iowa in Tucson and Iowa played their worst half of football.

[WoVeU]

Hey WoVeU:

I am not calling you out. Very valid question. Not that I am the type that does this. Do some pollsters rank teams based on how they feel where a certain team will finish at the end of the season? Maybe some of these guys are doing just that. These pollsters you speak of feel Alabama finishes ahead of South Carolina at season's end.

Last year, I remember Congrove ranking Oklahoma with 1 loss was 3rd (they were first) after the loss to BYU and BYU was 1-0 and was down the poll somewhere. This might be a similar situation, but then again, it might not.

I'd have to think that is exactly what they are doing. But I hate it, especially if that is the thought! That is just a benchmark for pompous. Still saying, "disregard this game...I know better!" Just way too many Isaiahs, Jeremiahs, and Ezekiels in it for me...and I know for a fact...God didn't sent them! I don't even want to hear about how much they love football or how much they watch it. You dang sure can't set back and say the college football season is a play-off...not when this stuff exists...and it exists widely and seems to be gaining speed again. (After diminishing for years!)

(And don't worry about offending me or ticking me off...this is just football..and this board is about discussion. Which includes argument! No poor me baby here....I don't squeak!)

[RazorHawk]

Someone earlier had posted that if you beat the number 1 team, you should then be number 1. Apparently, the pollsters don't agree as South Carolina is not number 1, nor should they be. Again, I think you have to look at the total body of work, and also consider where the game was played.

[WoVeU]

Someone earlier had posted that if you beat the number 1 team, you should then be number 1. Apparently, the pollsters don't agree as South Carolina is not number 1, nor should they be. Again, I think you have to look at the total body of work, and also consider where the game was played.

Oh, I agree. I think the work is in figuring how far you slide Bama down and slide SC up to get them above them. (I think you find some knowledge in that process, many comparisons come about.) And you have to look at SC's loss...to Auburn at Auburn...the #7 team. This factors in...and is big really.

I "THINK" Nebraska may be the best of them all, but they have not demonstrated it to the world quite yet. I would have likely had Auburn at 5th, SC at 7th, and Bama at 8th or 9th, and Ark 10th or 11th. And Nebraska and OK would have fell behind Auburn. (It is just that the SEC has hit early into good comparison data, the Big 12's starts this weekend. I know 3 things...Auburn beat SC, SC beat Bama, Bama beat Ark. Later you get to apply discern but these comparisons don't have cross conflict yet. But this is more of the same thing the government, groups, and schools are teaching, don't apply logic....apply feel and perception...because we are all special...we all have value to bring, even when no credence has been demonstrated...let us all anoint each other in our own creative wisdoms!"

[Eric]

I don't have an issue with ranking teams ahead of somebody they already lost to. Iowa's loss at Arizona was important, but Arizona also lost at home to an Oregon State team that just doesn't quite seem as good as Iowa does right now. On paper, I kind of like Iowa more than Arizona. The homefield advantage has to be accounted for.

The problem is you can't just stick Alabama in the teens somewhere because they lost one game on the road in the SEC. Let's not forget, this is a team that wiped out Florida, beat Arkansas, beat Penn State, and annihilated Duke (they way they did it was very impressive as mediocre as Duke is). This team has been constantly tested. I bet South Carolina finishes that stretch with two losses.

It's kind of like the Texas Tech - Oklahoma - Texas debacle a few years ago. You have a cycle of three teams and it wasn't obvious at the time which one was better. You couldn't really concoct any coherent "well they beat them so they have to go ahead" type strategy, you just had to trust your eyes and your brain.

[donovan]

There is no way to justify Alabama being ranked higher than South Carolina, unless you subscribe to the game on the field and the final score is just a nuisance to my more enlightened view theory. (These are the same people writing our kid's history books...just make it up as you go along.)

[Derek]

I agree...I will have SC ahead of Bama in my poll. Florida is still in the top 25 with back to back losses...only a hand full of teams can lose 2 in a row and still be ranked.

Yep, and Florida is one of them. Ga would be out in an instant, even when they win, they get dropped.

[Eric]

just make it up as you go along.

What do you think polls are?

I say before Virginia Tech gets one vote, James Madison ought to have 10 points in the AP poll!

[WoVeU]

Donovan is exactly right and Eric is wrong. Eric, you did as most, used a lot of wind and founded it upon a straw man argument. I laid it out, this logic is still linear with no contrary case. (And I wonder why nobody knows how to do anything anymore...when people abandon readily viewed logic.)

One more time for the Southern Canadian.

Bama 1 Loss.....South Cakalacky 1 Loss (and note SC didn't slip by they won by 14, there was not a tragedy in officiating, AND they covered the customary home-away point diff. ANd the score at least upheld the eye test! And I can fully disregard Saban's post game comments, even though he is a fellow Hillbilly. He basically trying to portray his guys aren't playingup to standard yet...which the voters are supposed to here as, "don't move Bama down to far, Bama-ball is coming!)

And for the strawman's...
Oregon St. has 2 losses...2 is 1 more than 1.
Iowa and Arizona have a bit more argument available (because Zona lost to a 2 loss team) but the greater logic still says Iowa > Arizona! And I note Iowa outranks them!!!

You can keep talking but there is ZERO case for Bama being above SC, absolutely 0!

I note, WVU lost to LSU in their house by 6 points...2 of their best players weren't dresses, and their 2 best (at least 2 of 3) got injured in the game! So tell me Eric, where do you have LSU and where do you have WVU?

[RazorHawk]

Hey WoVeU, Eric is right and Donovan is wrong.