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Sports Illustrated October 16
Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 5:58 pm
by GoBoilers
Well, the article clearly implicated 8 players among the 60 mentioned in the write up with it appears most of the rest took money. This is what I have feared over the years. It is not possible that some of the coaches don't know (certainly don't want to know) about what is going to their players. 7 page read. This is why I have often joked "How much did that player cost"? College football in all its glory has plenty of warts like the rest of life. Seen enough of Pete Carroll to confirm what many of us have thought. Now I questioned anyone with sucess. Oh well......
Re: Sports Illustrated October 16
Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 6:18 pm
by Dossenator
GoBoilers wrote:Well, the article clearly implicated 8 players among the 60 mentioned in the write up with it appears most of the rest took money. This is what I have feared over the years. It is not possible that some of the coaches don't know (certainly don't want to know) about what is going to their players. 7 page read. This is why I have often joked "How much did that player cost"? College football in all its glory has plenty of warts like the rest of life. Seen enough of Pete Carroll to confirm what many of us have thought. Now I questioned anyone with sucess. Oh well......
Some of the accused have fessed up and said they did indeed took money. Todd McShay said that due to NCAA rules that nothing would happen to any of these programs due to a statute of limitations clause. Then we have the issues with players under investigation at North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia, etc. Not sure you can stop these agents unless the NFL gets involved...if found out and proved you gave money to a student athlete then you are banned from being a professional agent.
Re: Sports Illustrated October 16
Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 6:21 pm
by RazorHawk
I was hoping this was the swimsuit issue.

Re: Sports Illustrated October 16
Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 6:26 pm
by silverfox
RazorHawk wrote:I was hoping this was the swimsuit issue.

Ditto

Re: Sports Illustrated October 16
Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 6:40 pm
by Spence
I think the only way to stop agents from paying players is to have the NFL ban anyone caught doing it. I don't see this as something a school can fix.
Re: Sports Illustrated October 16
Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 6:42 pm
by GoBoilers
RazorHawk wrote:I was hoping this was the swimsuit issue.

Did you wanna be in the swimsuit issue?
Re: Sports Illustrated October 16
Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 6:45 pm
by Spence
GoBoilers wrote:RazorHawk wrote:I was hoping this was the swimsuit issue.

Did you wanna be in the swimsuit issue?
Ugggh.

Re: Sports Illustrated October 16
Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 7:02 pm
by RazorHawk
GoBoilers wrote:RazorHawk wrote:I was hoping this was the swimsuit issue.

Did you wanna be in the swimsuit issue?
Hey, I beat you in the Great Swim Race at the Holiday Inn.

No swimsuits involved though.
Re: Sports Illustrated October 16
Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 7:27 pm
by GoBoilers
RazorHawk wrote:GoBoilers wrote:RazorHawk wrote:I was hoping this was the swimsuit issue.

Did you wanna be in the swimsuit issue?
Hey, I beat you in the Great Swim Race at the Holiday Inn.

No swimsuits involved though.
I remember that race. You won $50.
Re: Sports Illustrated October 16
Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 7:34 pm
by GoBoilers
Spence wrote:I think the only way to stop agents from paying players is to have the NFL ban anyone caught doing it. I don't see this as something a school can fix.
They just need to go ahead and make them semi-pros. I have already seen a tip of this 40 years ago when I was in school. This article really shows how widespread this is. If a school is sucessful, it likely has a higher rate of paid and recruited athletes. THAT is the conclusion after reading this. No two ways around it.
As Wilt Chamberlain said "I didn't go to Kansas for my asthma". Or Alex Karras when being interview by Johnny Carson, Carson asked "How did you make it to Iowa?" Karras didn't miss a beat replying: "they paid me more."
Ohio States', Santonio Holmes was mentioned in the article. Most of the players were on the west coast. Purdue-no wonder why we sucked in the 90's-no one wanted to pay our talent.
Re: Sports Illustrated October 16
Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 7:41 pm
by Dossenator
Spence wrote:I think the only way to stop agents from paying players is to have the NFL ban anyone caught doing it. I don't see this as something a school can fix.
Exactly what I said...it is the only way.
I saw today that Ohio State is investigating the claim that Santonio Holmes accepted money.
Re: Sports Illustrated October 16
Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 8:49 pm
by Spence
GoBoilers wrote:Spence wrote:I think the only way to stop agents from paying players is to have the NFL ban anyone caught doing it. I don't see this as something a school can fix.
They just need to go ahead and make them semi-pros. I have already seen a tip of this 40 years ago when I was in school. This article really shows how widespread this is. If a school is sucessful, it likely has a higher rate of paid and recruited athletes. THAT is the conclusion after reading this. No two ways around it.
As Wilt Chamberlain said "I didn't go to Kansas for my asthma". Or Alex Karras when being interview by Johnny Carson, Carson asked "How did you make it to Iowa?" Karras didn't miss a beat replying: "they paid me more."
Ohio States', Santonio Holmes was mentioned in the article. Most of the players were on the west coast. Purdue-no wonder why we sucked in the 90's-no one wanted to pay our talent.
It doesn't surprise me that Santonio Holmes was taking money from an agent. Wouldn't surprise me of Chris Gamble either. Both were really good players and then all of the sudden, in the year they declared, they pulled back and ike someone was telling them to take it easy - protecting their investment.
I know Ohio State does it's level best to keep the players away from agents. I think most schools do, but as long as you have kids with no money and agents handing it out, kids are going to take it. Cris Carter was one that got caught and lost his eligibility at Ohio State in the 80's. I can't believe it has gotten better in the last 20 years.
I'm not sure the whole semi pro thing will ever fly with the presidents. The NFL, as long as they want to keep their free minor league system, is going to have to address the situation. This is something the schools really can't control.