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Newsflash!: Michigan's Defense Still Otherworldly Horrendous

Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 1:07 pm
by Eric
Michigan's offense has turned the ball over a few too many times and given them bad field position, but Illinois is getting a in a groove and marching down the field with ease. This is going to be a 50 pointer for the Illini I think. Denard hasn't done all that well today throwing behind some people, but one man can only do so much.

Re: Newsflash!: Michigan's Defense Still Otherworldly Horrendous

Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 1:13 pm
by Brian Roastbeef
Robinson would be having a good day if not for his two picks...

Illinois offense meanwhile looks balanced in that scary sort of way. Maybe a little more skewed toward the running game, but it's working for them.

Re: Newsflash!: Michigan's Defense Still Otherworldly Horrendous

Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 1:25 pm
by Brian Roastbeef
Robinson 45 yd pass to take the lead... so it's going to be one of those games... Well, most would prefer a steady offense than having to rely on making the big passes every drive. Still, I can see this one finishing 52-49.

(Heading off to check what the O/U was...)

Re: Newsflash!: Michigan's Defense Still Otherworldly Horrendous

Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 1:28 pm
by Eric
Brian Roastbeef wrote:Robinson 45 yd pass to take the lead... so it's going to be one of those games... Well, most would prefer a steady offense than having to rely on making the big passes every drive. Still, I can see this one finishing 52-49.

(Heading off to check what the O/U was...)


I think Illinois was favored by 3.5 over Michigan.

Re: Newsflash!: Michigan's Defense Still Otherworldly Horrendous

Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 1:30 pm
by RazorHawk
Eric wrote:
Brian Roastbeef wrote:Robinson 45 yd pass to take the lead... so it's going to be one of those games... Well, most would prefer a steady offense than having to rely on making the big passes every drive. Still, I can see this one finishing 52-49.

(Heading off to check what the O/U was...)


I think Illinois was favored by 3.5 over Michigan.
Michigan was favored by 3.

Re: Newsflash!: Michigan's Defense Still Otherworldly Horrendous

Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 1:36 pm
by Brian Roastbeef
RazorHawk wrote:
Eric wrote:
Brian Roastbeef wrote:Robinson 45 yd pass to take the lead... so it's going to be one of those games... Well, most would prefer a steady offense than having to rely on making the big passes every drive. Still, I can see this one finishing 52-49.

(Heading off to check what the O/U was...)


I think Illinois was favored by 3.5 over Michigan.
Michigan was favored by 3.


Yeah it was Michigan by 3, standard home field advantage line... But I meant the over/under. (Combined point total)

That was 58.5... which they have now already passed before halftime.

Re: Newsflash!: Michigan's Defense Still Otherworldly Horrendous

Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 1:37 pm
by Eric
62 points at halftime? Let's see if any of the surrounding schools have any middleschoolers who would like to play defense in this, I'm sure they would provide roughly the same amount of resistance :lol:

Re: Newsflash!: Michigan's Defense Still Otherworldly Horrendous

Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 1:56 pm
by Grayghost
Eric wrote:62 points at halftime? Let's see if any of the surrounding schools have any middleschoolers who would like to play defense in this, I'm sure they would provide roughly the same amount of resistance :lol:


I thought I was looking at a Big 10 basketball score for a second. :shock:

Re: Newsflash!: Michigan's Defense Still Otherworldly Horrendous

Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 2:31 pm
by WoVeU
Again...kicking and punting seem to be lacking, steadily worse over the last few years across the NCAA.

Re: Newsflash!: Michigan's Defense Still Otherworldly Horrendous

Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 4:43 pm
by Grayghost
This had to be a preview of Big 10 basketball...had to. 132 points!? Are you kidding me?

Re: Newsflash!: Michigan's Defense Still Otherworldly Horrendous

Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 2:24 am
by Derek
Eric wrote:Michigan's offense has turned the ball over a few too many times and given them bad field position, but Illinois is getting a in a groove and marching down the field with ease. This is going to be a 50 pointer for the Illini I think. Denard hasn't done all that well today throwing behind some people, but one man can only do so much.


I'm with you...except on the other side of the ball...Ga defense is alive and well and playing like World beaters....but the offense is NOT clicking with Murray.

The have the best reciever in the country and can't seem to find him.

I went to the Georgia game yesterday and watched Murray throw about 3-4 passes in the dirt. It's getting kinda old.

Pics from the Ga/Idaho State game...http://www.dscsgroup.org/photos/main.php?g2_itemId=690

Re: Newsflash!: Michigan's Defense Still Otherworldly Horrendous

Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 3:38 am
by silverfox
Derek wrote:
Eric wrote:Michigan's offense has turned the ball over a few too many times and given them bad field position, but Illinois is getting a in a groove and marching down the field with ease. This is going to be a 50 pointer for the Illini I think. Denard hasn't done all that well today throwing behind some people, but one man can only do so much.


I'm with you...except on the other side of the ball...Ga defense is alive and well and playing like World beaters....but the offense is NOT clicking with Murray.

The have the best reciever in the country and can't seem to find him.

I went to the Georgia game yesterday and watched Murray throw about 3-4 passes in the dirt. It's getting kinda old.

Pics from the Ga/Idaho State game...http://www.dscsgroup.org/photos/main.php?g2_itemId=690


Congratulations on that win against Idaho State. That second quarter must have been a fun blow-out.

Re: Newsflash!: Michigan's Defense Still Otherworldly Horrendous

Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 10:07 am
by Spence
Friday's game should push Michigan's defense into near last in the nation in defense. This should be a glaring, although extreme, example that offense is complete over -rated in it's importance over defense. CFB needs to get back to real x's and o's, block and tackle football and quit passing this crap off for football. It is football like soccer is football. It says something when Boise State looks more like Michigan than Michigan. Ohio State is built much the same way, except they have lots more speed on defense, but they have a soft belly. Have had for five years. Iowa and Wisconsin still play football they way it was meant to be played. Hopefully the fact that they are winning against this other crap will tell the other teams something. The B-10 looks like the freakin Sun Belt. :roll:

Re: Newsflash!: Michigan's Defense Still Otherworldly Horrendous

Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 4:49 pm
by Cane from the Bend
Spence wrote:This should be a glaring, although extreme, example that offense is complete over -rated in it's importance over defense.


It's kind of the same thing that happened to Louisville; Petrino left `em with almost no defense, instead, stacking all his eggs in the offensive basket ... now, the Cardinals are struggling to get back to a balnced team.

You can see quite nearly the same thing happening at Arkansas, presently; the Razorback passing game is tremendous, yet, they have been giving up alot on defense ... it's starting to look like that old Petrino we're use to.

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Spence wrote:It is football like soccer is football.


I get the reference, though, soccer is a sport with very little scoring. 8)

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The Love affair with the speedy little offense will become a fizzled flicker on the wick of a burnt out candle inside the Bigger conferences.

It may be fun to watch, but, when those smaller teams start getting beat up during the regular season by stronger defenses, it will all fall by the way side ... as these high profile schools will not accept flashy offensive pizazz as compensation for a lack of W's.

Like all things, we see the benefits before the larger picture, and short comings. And we have seen what the quick springy offense play is all about ... now, those offenses are starting to wane, as the well built defensive programs are flexing their muscle, holding the squirrely trickards in check ... while their traditional offenses are putting numbers on their deficient counter parts; due to putting too much faith in one aspect of the game, and not focusing on the other ( i.e. preventing the opponent from scoring ).

The quick spread works in smaller conferences, because the depth of the defensive rosters they're competing against isn't vast ... and, playing one worthy adversary every now & again, is easier to prepare for.

However, once inside the bigger conferences, the adjustment of said game plan suffers ... because the Defenses have deeper rosters, and rotation keeps the players fresh enough to keep up with the flash.

In the end, it will all balance itself out.

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Re: Newsflash!: Michigan's Defense Still Otherworldly Horrendous

Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 5:04 pm
by Eric
Does Oregon and Auburn ring a bell?

Gus Malzahn's "system" is every bit the equivalent of a team like Oregon or Michigan. They spread you out and try to get their athletes in space. You can win with different styles I think. I don't think three yards and a cloud of dust is somehow inherently more productive than Oregon's spread option.