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Cal has the football down 15-13. Oregon's offense has been held under 200 yards midway through the 3rd quarter. Stanford also just got picked off and is losing in Tempe to Arizona State, 13-10 in the start of the 4th quarter.

I fully expect both of these underdogs to fold

Oh fantastic, a 29 yard field goal to take the lead against the #1 team in the nation. You have to make that. You're seriously going to miss that FG?

It wasn't even close=choke. Like i would have done, choke!

I saw them driving with quite a lot of time left in the game and was surprised when I checked back a few hours later and the final was the same. Seasons often hinge on 1 play. This time it fell in Oregon's favor.

We must remember that we as fans place a lot of weight on the shoulders of young men. Men who on a daily basis deal with stresses most of us have never been asked to handle. In my mid 30's I know I could shrug off the stress and drive home a 30 yarder and go down in history as the guy who ruined Oregon's season. When I was 20 I don't know that I would have been able to walk on the field without trembling like a girl. I live to make plays now, but when I was 20 I would have folded like a lawn chair.

Vile

Oregon loses style points....that FG should have gone in.

Style points.......and to think we have a thread on sportsmanship....

All wins aren't equal, Donovan. Escaping an underdog by the hair on your chinny, chin, chin because they missed a chip shot FG is a different win then beating them by 21 points.

And that, my friend, is "style points".

I do understand the euphemism "stylepoints." Out West...we like to call it...running up the score...seems so much more honest.

Well...I always liked Bobby's answer to that.

He says that when he was a young coach that he complained to a victor's coach about running up the score. That coach answered, "Coach, keeping the score down is your job."

Bowden said that if you are resting your starters, playing your bench...than shame on the other team if they can't stop your game. He will never tell his youngsters coming off of the bench to not play their game. It is part of their learning experience and you play all out..."until the echo of the whistle".

I support running the offense with your second-teamers versus throwing in your second-teamers and having them run the ball on three straight plays. If that's the case, then there's no point because you aren't getting your backup QB or WRs any meaningful time in learning the offense. And it also sends the message to your O-line and RBs that you can take it easy because the goal isn't to score or even get first downs, just run the clock down.

Nobody argues with playing hard, letting the bench play and play hard and score..regardless...I agree with Bowden and that conversation.....HOWEVER..that really does not address the system that factors in "style" as an incentive...and that is the issue.

donovan wrote:Nobody argues with playing hard, letting the bench play and play hard and score..regardless...I agree with Bowden and that conversation.....HOWEVER..that really does not address the system that factors in "style" as an incentive...and that is the issue.

Style points, to me, means you leave that first team in too long. I don't like that. I agree with BB that you don't call off the dogs with your bench players. They practice just as hard as anyone else and if they can smell the endzone, let them.

Eric wrote:I support running the offense with your second-teamers versus throwing in your second-teamers and having them run the ball on three straight plays. If that's the case, then there's no point because you aren't getting your backup QB or WRs any meaningful time in learning the offense. And it also sends the message to your O-line and RBs that you can take it easy because the goal isn't to score or even get first downs, just run the clock down.

Michigan hasn't been able to do that much lately. Sorry to beat Spence to this.

RazorHawk wrote:

Eric wrote:I support running the offense with your second-teamers versus throwing in your second-teamers and having them run the ball on three straight plays. If that's the case, then there's no point because you aren't getting your backup QB or WRs any meaningful time in learning the offense. And it also sends the message to your O-line and RBs that you can take it easy because the goal isn't to score or even get first downs, just run the clock down.

Michigan hasn't been able to do that much lately. Sorry to beat Spence to this.

I can't believe I missed it.

RazorHawk wrote:

Eric wrote:I support running the offense with your second-teamers versus throwing in your second-teamers and having them run the ball on three straight plays. If that's the case, then there's no point because you aren't getting your backup QB or WRs any meaningful time in learning the offense. And it also sends the message to your O-line and RBs that you can take it easy because the goal isn't to score or even get first downs, just run the clock down.

Michigan hasn't been able to do that much lately. Sorry to beat Spence to this.

That's what the UMass game was for, but they're too good for us apparently