Page 1 of 3

Miami of Ohio & OSU...study on admissions

Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 9:15 am
by billybud
Interesting...I have mentioned the analogy of college "admissions" before as a sort of proxy for the non BCS-BCS controversy....

link:

http://www.studentfreepress.net/archives/7028

Re: Miami of Ohio & OSU...study on admissions

Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 12:33 pm
by Spence
Someone is always being discriminated against. There should be one standard for everyone, including athletes.

Re: Miami of Ohio & OSU...study on admissions

Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 7:31 pm
by donovan
Spence wrote:Someone is always being discriminated against. There should be one standard for everyone, including athletes.


If you have a single standard, that does not allow those deeming themselves morally superior, to exercise unrighteous dominion.

Re: Miami of Ohio & OSU...study on admissions

Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 8:03 pm
by Spence
donovan wrote:
Spence wrote:Someone is always being discriminated against. There should be one standard for everyone, including athletes.


If you have a single standard, that does not allow those deeming themselves morally superior, to exercise unrighteous dominion.


True, and we would all be better off. Each school should base their entrance standard based on who they want to be. Harvard should be tougher to get into than Ohio State. But the minimum entrance requirements for a school should apply for every student regardless of any other factor. Once that standard is met, then I think the school can look at the students back ground and "tie break" according to what they deem their social standards should represent.

Re: Miami of Ohio & OSU...study on admissions

Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 8:06 pm
by GoBoilers
We have had what, 30 or 40 yerars of affirmative admissions. Doesn't look like it has made a big dent into things in general.

Re: Miami of Ohio & OSU...study on admissions

Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 10:21 pm
by Spence
GoBoilers wrote:We have had what, 30 or 40 yerars of affirmative admissions. Doesn't look like it has made a big dent into things in general.


If parents and teachers would prepare kids before they reach college age, they wouldn't even have to pretend to need affirmative action in admissions. Instead we have decided it is bad for the kids to be held back if they haven't achieved enough to pass and we are sending millions of kids who don't know how what it feels like to work to achieve a goal. Passing through each grade in primary and secondary school is like having a birthday today, it is going to happen no matter what. We do this in the name of equality. :roll:

Re: Miami of Ohio & OSU...study on admissions

Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 11:51 pm
by GoBoilers
Spence wrote:
GoBoilers wrote:We have had what, 30 or 40 yerars of affirmative admissions. Doesn't look like it has made a big dent into things in general.


If parents and teachers would prepare kids before they reach college age, they wouldn't even have to pretend to need affirmative action in admissions. Instead we have decided it is bad for the kids to be held back if they haven't achieved enough to pass and we are sending millions of kids who don't know how what it feels like to work to achieve a goal. Passing through each grade in primary and secondary school is like having a birthday today, it is going to happen no matter what. We do this in the name of equality. :roll:

Bingo!. We can add billions to education but, it means nothing. It is treating the symptom not the cause. If parents teach the kids about learning, stay away from drugs, how to balance a checkbook, know where the kids are, get involved you will solve 90% of the educational problem. They then are qualified to go on!

Re: Miami of Ohio & OSU...study on admissions

Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 11:58 pm
by Spence
Just them knowing how to make change would go a long way. :lol:

Re: Miami of Ohio & OSU...study on admissions

Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 11:44 am
by RazorHawk
Spence wrote:Just them knowing how to make a change would go a long way. :lol:
Why are you bringing homosexuality into this discussion? :D

Re: Miami of Ohio & OSU...study on admissions

Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 12:17 pm
by billybud
it's in the eye of the beholder, Razor...kind of a verbal Rohrshack.

Re: Miami of Ohio & OSU...study on admissions

Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 3:23 pm
by Spence
RazorHawk wrote:
Spence wrote:Just them knowing how to make a change would go a long way. :lol:
Why are you bringing homosexuality into this discussion? :D



I want to say - make change. I think the other stuff kind of takes care of itself. :lol:

Re: Miami of Ohio & OSU...study on admissions

Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 5:26 pm
by RazorHawk
Spence wrote:
RazorHawk wrote:
Spence wrote:Just them knowing how to make a change would go a long way. :lol:
Why are you bringing homosexuality into this discussion? :D



I want to say - make change. I think the other stuff kind of takes care of itself. :lol:
You actually did say "make change". My deviant or creative mind edited your post to say "make a change". :twisted: :twisted: I sure miss football.

Re: Miami of Ohio & OSU...study on admissions

Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 6:08 pm
by Spence
Me too.

Re: Miami of Ohio & OSU...study on admissions

Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 9:52 pm
by GoBoilers
Spence wrote:Me too.

Me threee. Sigh.

Re: Miami of Ohio & OSU...study on admissions

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:06 am
by billybud
woo hoo...spring practice in just a month or so.

But baseball is on.

FSU's opening series was last week. Great spring weather. The new bat rule will change the game. For the last decade or so, the teams with power hitters have been having the big inning strategy take them to Omaha. Pitching and defense will become even more important with fewer long balls hit. More small ball type games...bunts, steals, sacrifice hits.

One thing that I like is that it makes the fast ball pitcher relevant again. With the trampoline bats, pitchers had to throw a lot of curve balls. The guy with an 85-90 mph fastball had to be an expert at placement or he got whacked out of the park even on crap balls. With the much smaller sweet spot on the bat, no longer can a guy pull an inside fast one over the left field fence with ease.

Baseball will keep me happy for the spring...