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Anyone else see this...12 dead and 33 others wounded at Fort Hood in Texas.

The shooter was: Army Maj. Malik Nadal Hasan (not sure if this is his birth name or if he changed it late)...from what I have heard they believe him to be a Muslim. They shot and killed him.

Crazy world we live in.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_fort_hood_shooting

Was just watching the news and they said he was a major, was a mental health professional, a Muslim, and that he was upset that he was having to deploy. What is wrong with people? If he was so upset then why kill so many innocent people. Kill yourself and be done with it. This stuff really upsets me. Just like the mall and school shootings....often times these individuals kill themselves after they take so many lives. Just does not make any sense to me.

Dossenator wrote:Was just watching the news and they said he was a major, was a mental health professional, a Muslim, and that he was upset that he was having to deploy. What is wrong with people? If he was so upset then why kill so many innocent people. Kill yourself and be done with it. This stuff really upsets me. Just like the mall and school shootings....often times these individuals kill themselves after they take so many lives. Just does not make any sense to me.

I'm not sure being Muslim had any thing to do with him being a nut job.

Spence wrote:

Dossenator wrote:Was just watching the news and they said he was a major, was a mental health professional, a Muslim, and that he was upset that he was having to deploy. What is wrong with people? If he was so upset then why kill so many innocent people. Kill yourself and be done with it. This stuff really upsets me. Just like the mall and school shootings....often times these individuals kill themselves after they take so many lives. Just does not make any sense to me.

I'm not sure being Muslim had any thing to do with him being a nut job.

I'm not saying that it does either...many nutt jobs not Muslim. However, this situations sounds a lot like a Islamic terrorists attack. He was disgruntled with the US Miliatary and wanted to show his Muslim brothers that he is fighting the fight here on US soil. Of course...that is all speculation.

He was in the US army. I say that gives him the benefit of being our nut job.

Spence wrote:He was in the US army. I say that gives him the benefit of being our nut job.

Just because he is ours does not mean he was not taking part in jihad....down with the US mentality of the Middle East.

Dossenator wrote:

Spence wrote:He was in the US army. I say that gives him the benefit of being our nut job.

Just because he is ours does not mean he was not taking part in jihad....down with the US mentality of the Middle East.

I agree. Wrong or right, first thing I told the wife was Radical Islaamic infiltrating the Army! She told me a 1/2 hour later he was at least Muslim.

Hard to say, but I really wonder.

WoVeU...I too thought the same thing. Maybe that is wrong of us...I don't know. We have seen this all ready in Iraq. US soldiers...of Middle Eastern decent...turning on their fellow soldiers. Not sure what you do about it.

They are now reporting the coward is still alive.

This is what I wonder.....where is the American Muslin community in all of this. Why is there not a public outcry from them. I would think they would be on every news program and every paper denouncing this.

We all are going to be careful in painting with a broad brush. It would just help if there was some vocality from Muslims.

donovan wrote:This is what I wonder.....where is the American Muslin community in all of this. Why is there not a public outcry from them. I would think they would be on every news program and every paper denouncing this.

We all are going to be careful in painting with a broad brush. It would just help if there was some vocality from Muslims.

I think most of them do denounce it, but they have been lying low - so to speak - because they are not the most popular of our citizens right now.

Some Muslim Organizations were among the first to express regret yesterday...their emails went out to news organizations.

I do believe that what this action has done is to further accentuate that what we have is actually a world wide religious war. A continuation of a war that has been waged for over a thousand years.

When, in the past, the US has had military actions against countries, our soldiers were rarely conflicted about having to fight "religious brethren" or even soldiers from countries of their ancestors origin. German Americans and Italian Americans fought the Germans and Italians. But, a muslim US soldier may have difficulty in a war that is essentially a religious war with muslims on the other side. There is so little separation between church and country in the muslim world that by fighting one, you fight the other.

I can see the same conflict if Jewish American soldiers are asked to take part in a conflict with Isreal.

Whether we want to believe it or not the Islamic terrorists kill because they believe they are doing what their god wants them too...to have a better spot in Heaven and to have lots of virgins at their dispossal. The koran tells them to convert by the sword and too convert everyone...if they refuse you are to kill them...their book does not teach to spread their faith by the word. So, whether radical or not this is what their book teaches them.

I completely understand the history of Christians killing in the name of God as well. But in today's world, I don't believe that happens. The Bible teaches to spread the faith by the word. I have spoken to a number of Muslims here in Southern Cal...I have a Muslim neighbor (they moved to California from Iran)...and they all have scared me by their words. They all said they see the wars in Iraq and Afghanastan as wars between Christians (US) and Muslims (them). Whether we want to believe it or not, that is how they see it.

My brother-in-law was a Marine for years and said that several Muslims served with him. He was stationed in Somalia in the 1990's and said that a few of them applauded those that took down the Blackhawk helicopters. He said they disliked America and what America stood for. And he could not believe how they talked about the women in their lives: wives, mothers, sisters, etc. He never could understand why they were in the US military (maybe to infilatrate...I don't know). He said he tried to stay as far away from them as he could.

It is hard not to be a little leary when you see a Mulsim shooting up a US army base when so many terrorists acts by Muslims take place every single day.

There are pawns in war that fight for religious purposes. That is true of almost any war. Fighting for god, your country, your family.....all of that. At the higher level war is always about land, money, and power. Even holy wars aren't really about religion at the top. Religion is just the tool the leaders use to give the people a reason to die. A good rule of thumb says do not fight a war for god that god hasn't asked you to fight.

billybud wrote:I can see the same conflict if Jewish American soldiers are asked to take part in a conflict with Isreal.

No conflict with true Jews...they simply wouldn't. And I for one am the kind of Christian that would never be party to attack on Israel.

A Muslim of honor would simply refuse to go to the fight and be discharged!