So, Western Kentucky Decides to Gamble . . .

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Re: So, Western Kentucky Decides to Gamble . . .

Postby Spence » Wed Jun 05, 2013 10:58 pm

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Spence wrote:Yes, but also the most morally corrupt coach in the nation. Petrino only cares about Petrino. He crapped on his wife, he crapped on every team that hired him, and he broke the trust of everyone that put their trust in him. Anyone that decides to trust him again will deserve what they get.

Yep, I pretty much agree, that he is probably the only Div I head football coach that has committed adultery. <sarcasm tag>. He happened to get caught. He is not the only one to have left pro jobs in the middle of the year (Lou Holtz). He also built up the Louisville program, but left, he also upgrade the Arkansas program. I did not feel the U of A should have fired him, as did the National Media. Of course, the media changed their tune, once he was fired.

I think this is a great hire for Western Kentucky and hopefully he will stay there for 3 or 4 years. I am sure though if a better gig is made available to him, he will bolt. I am sure there are many people in the business world that would leave their current job for a better one at the drop of a hat. It happens every day.

I also think Petrino is probably a grade A prick, but so have many other very good football coaches.


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Re: So, Western Kentucky Decides to Gamble . . .

Postby Cane from the Bend » Fri Jun 07, 2013 11:47 pm

Right . . .

But that does not mean he should be excused of his transgressions, just because others who are slime balls, have not been [or are yet to be] caught.

He did make the mistakes, and they became public. A simple, aw-well & a shrug does not make them magically disappear. I believe Arkansas made the right decision in getting rid of him . . . with that posted, I also feel as though they should have put a bit more thought into his replacement.

Sometimes, it boils down to, you get what you're willing to pay for.

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Re: So, Western Kentucky Decides to Gamble . . .

Postby RazorHawk » Sat Jul 06, 2013 8:31 am

Cane from the Bend wrote:Right . . .

But that does not mean he should be excused of his transgressions, just because others who are slime balls, have not been [or are yet to be] caught.

He did make the mistakes, and they became public. A simple, aw-well & a shrug does not make them magically disappear. I believe Arkansas made the right decision in getting rid of him . . . with that posted, I also feel as though they should have put a bit more thought into his replacement.

Sometimes, it boils down to, you get what you're willing to pay for.

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You must have forgotten the timing of this. This happened in April, and the University felt that there would be little chance of attracting a suitable replacement at that time of the year. Hiring John L Smith, with his experience and knowledge of the program was a reasonable hire. He was hired with less than a 1 yr contract and the coach search never stopped. There was no reasoning of saving money with the hire.

Last year, most definitely was a disaster, and I feel the 4-8 record, would probably have been an 8-4 record with a bowl game, had Petrino been there.

With the Bielema hire, this strategy may have actually been very good. Time will tell.
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Re: So, Western Kentucky Decides to Gamble . . .

Postby donovan » Mon Jul 08, 2013 1:24 pm

I know on the field John L. Smith can be a loose cannon. I have read all the unkind comments on this board about him. There is however, in Smith, a man of better character than most of the coaches that are lauded and praised because they have winning teams. His finanacially troubles were trusting people who were untrustworthy. Anyway....this is a pretty interesting article of "Where they are now"

http://www.denverpost.com/colleges/ci_23071155/john-l-smith-brings-big-time-coaching-experience
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Re: So, Western Kentucky Decides to Gamble . . .

Postby Derek » Tue Jul 09, 2013 12:55 am

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Re: So, Western Kentucky Decides to Gamble . . .

Postby RazorHawk » Tue Jul 09, 2013 2:40 pm

donovan wrote:I know on the field John L. Smith can be a loose cannon. I have read all the unkind comments on this board about him. There is however, in Smith, a man of better character than most of the coaches that are lauded and praised because they have winning teams. His finanacially troubles were trusting people who were untrustworthy. Anyway....this is a pretty interesting article of "Where they are now"

http://www.denverpost.com/colleges/ci_23071155/john-l-smith-brings-big-time-coaching-experience
I always like John L and think he did a good job as special teams coach under Petrino. I think things may have passed him by, and he definitely was in over his head, as a head coach in the SEC.

When he was given the job, it was temporary and an attempt by the U of A to help him out financially some. In fact, I think they were trying to set up a large part of his compensation to be delayed and not part of the bankruptcy.
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Re: So, Western Kentucky Decides to Gamble . . .

Postby Cane from the Bend » Wed Jan 08, 2014 1:35 pm

What was that where somebody talked about coming full circle:

Current Western Kentucky and former Louisville coach Bobby Petrino interviewed Tuesday with Louisville athletic director Tom Jurich for the head-coaching job at the school.

Stanford defensive coordinator Derek Mason, Michigan State defensive coordinator Pat Narduzzi and Clemson offensive coordinator Chad Morris also are among the six individuals who interviewed for the job.

Current Louisville offensive coordinator Shawn Watson, and defensive coordinator Vance Bedford interviewed as well.

Petrino is one of three finalists to replace Charlie Strong . . . The other two finalists are unknown.

An announcement on Strong's successor could come as early as Thursday morning, when the University of Louisville Athletic Association is scheduled to meet to review Jurich's recommendation for the position. The AD has promised to move quickly on the hire, but said he wanted a coach who was the right fit and committed to the school for the long term.

Colorado State's Jim McElwain, who did not interview, initially was a candidate for the position. However, McElwain was not pursued because of Jurich's respect and admiration for CSU AD Jack Graham and the Rams' program. [Jurich was athletic director at Colorado State for four years before coming to Louisville in 1997]

Mark Dantonio, Tuesday night about the possibility of losing Narduzzi to another school: "When you're successful, everybody's going to have opportunities. When there are good opportunities for your guys, you want the best for them, so whatever's going to be best for him as we go through this. But, it's a win-win situation."

Petrino signed a four-year deal with Western Kentucky in December 2012. The deal had a base annual salary of $850,000 and includes a $1.2 million repayment to the school if he terminates it at any time.

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Re: So, Western Kentucky Decides to Gamble . . .

Postby Derek » Thu Jan 09, 2014 1:35 am

Cane from the Bend wrote:Petrino signed a four-year deal with Western Kentucky in December 2012. The deal had a base annual salary of $850,000 and includes a $1.2 million repayment to the school if he terminates it at any time.


You missed a little more of this....

In the wake of the scandal, Petrino signed a four-year contract with Western Kentucky in December 2012. The deal has a base salary of $850,000 and includes clauses in which the oft-traveled coach must repay the school $1.2 million in six installments beginning a month after any early exit, while the program that hires him must agree to schedule a two-year, home-and-home series with WKU.
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Re: So, Western Kentucky Decides to Gamble . . .

Postby Swamp Daddy » Thu Jan 09, 2014 7:28 pm

It will be interesting to see what Jeff Brohm (ex-UL QB) does at WKU. He's had various coaching jobs ever since being at UL under Petrino. Good luck to WKU with Jeff. And, as to the clause, about a home and home with UL and WKU that is no problem as we've played them plenty in the past, etc.

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Re: So, Western Kentucky Decides to Gamble . . .

Postby billybud » Fri Jan 10, 2014 9:05 am

Derek wrote:
Cane from the Bend wrote:Petrino signed a four-year deal with Western Kentucky in December 2012. The deal had a base annual salary of $850,000 and includes a $1.2 million repayment to the school if he terminates it at any time.


You missed a little more of this....

In the wake of the scandal, Petrino signed a four-year contract with Western Kentucky in December 2012. The deal has a base salary of $850,000 and includes clauses in which the oft-traveled coach must repay the school $1.2 million in six installments beginning a month after any early exit, while the program that hires him must agree to schedule a two-year, home-and-home series with WKU.


That will be interesting to see...how they an reinforce that home & home. A non participating third party can't be bound by contract.
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