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Re: Out of Conference Schedules

Postby RazorHawk » Mon Jan 17, 2011 2:42 pm

My question relative to Miami OH, was about the financial aspect for Boise State. I would think that the Georgia, Mich State matchups would make more sense from a financial standpoint than the game with Miami OH.

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Re: Out of Conference Schedules

Postby Spence » Mon Jan 17, 2011 3:04 pm

RazorHawk wrote:My question relative to Miami OH, was about the financial aspect for Boise State. I would think that the Georgia, Mich State matchups would make more sense from a financial standpoint than the game with Miami OH.

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It is a home game. They aren't going to play their whole OOC schedule on the road. Boise State probably makes as much at home as on the road. That is the difference between them and the schools with big stadiums. The schools with the larger stadiums generally lose money by traveling. The smaller schools make money. The difference between Boise State, though, and Miami (Oh) is that Boise State wants to make money and compete for a BCS bid. Miami is just looking at the $$$. Miami is just trying to keep their athletic program in the black.
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Re: Out of Conference Schedules

Postby RazorHawk » Mon Jan 17, 2011 3:34 pm

OK, now it makes sense for Boise State, but Miami, OH would make more money playing an additional Big Ten team or some closer school with a larger stadium, unless Boise State is paying them a bunch.
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Re: Out of Conference Schedules

Postby Spence » Mon Jan 17, 2011 7:26 pm

RazorHawk wrote:OK, now it makes sense for Boise State, but Miami, OH would make more money playing an additional Big Ten team or some closer school with a larger stadium, unless Boise State is paying them a bunch.


I agree, but maybe they would rather get beat by someone new. :lol: MAC teams do play lots of games outside the MAC. The year they did really well they beat several B-12 teams including K-state. The MAC teams don't win against many good teams, but they have stretches where they play competitive games - not the same as being competitive over all - which I think is probably the case with most C-USA, WAC, Sun Belt, and MWC teams. Boise State, TCU, and Utah excluded.

One thing the MAC is second to none in is football coaches. More great football coaches come out of the MAC (especially Miami) than any other conference. The problem with the MAC is that with the population decline in the midwest do to the loss of industry, the area can't feed the B-10, part of the B-East, and the MAC too. All three conferences have suffered because of it.
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Re: Out of Conference Schedules

Postby Jason G » Tue Jan 18, 2011 8:55 am

billybud wrote:Oh..Miami of Ohio told me everything I needed to know about them (and the MAC). They are the big goldfish in their pond but get eaten by the Koi in the larger pond.

When you are dominant against non AQ teams and are absolutely whipped by every AQ team on your schedule...it says, LOUDLY, that there is a vast difference in degree of difficulty. In this case..it screams.

It is another case of Ball State syndrome (you can sub Hawaii syndrome if you desire). A lot of wins that mean little in the context of a national power ranking.


Miami, while winning the conference title, was nowhere near the best team in the MAC in 2010. Northern Illinois was that team, and they should have been ranked in the Top 25. CCR has them at number 16 I believe. Yes, they lost the title game to Miami but that was not the same NIU that played all year. That was a distracted team with everything going on off the field pertaining to their head coach and the coaching staff.
I watched Miami get lucky with an Akron fumble inside the RedHawks 10 yard line to hold on to a 19-14 over the Zips. Akron was 1-11 this year and finished either 119th or 120th in all the computer rankings and there are only 120 teams. No way was that team the MAC's best. They may have been 4th or 5th best to be completely honest, although they did play better at the very end of the season.

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Re: Out of Conference Schedules

Postby billybud » Tue Jan 18, 2011 2:55 pm

I agree that NIU was better than Miami. That happens in conferences. Wisconsin lost to Michigan State and I still think that Wisconsin was the better team.

NIU did beat Minnesota and while Minnesota lost 9 games, including South Dakota...they are a BCS team and were dangerous enough to have a couple of conference wins.
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Re: Out of Conference Schedules

Postby Spence » Tue Jan 18, 2011 3:54 pm

billybud wrote:I agree that NIU was better than Miami. That happens in conferences. Wisconsin lost to Michigan State and I still think that Wisconsin was the better team.

NIU did beat Minnesota and while Minnesota lost 9 games, including South Dakota...they are a BCS team and were dangerous enough to have a couple of conference wins.



Wisconsin was the best team in the B-10. Minnesota was really bad. The worst team in the B-10. I have no explaination on how they beat Iowa. They could play Iowa 100 times and that would be the only win.
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