Does Crime Pay?

[Swamp Daddy]

originally posted by Farmdude at http://www.thecebe.com/showthread.php?tid=426 which is a UL fan site from an SI article

The Top 25
The number of players on each team in the study who were found to have police records
School Players charged SI preseason rank
1. Pittsburgh 22 16
2. Iowa 18 6
2. Arkansas 18 23
4. Boise State 16 3
4. Penn State 16 19
6. Virginia Tech 13 10
7. Wisconsin 9 11
7. Oklahoma 9 12
7. Florida State 9 25
10. Miami 8 15
11. Ohio State 7 2
11. Florida 7 7
11. Oregon 7 8
11. USC 7 17
15. Alabama 5 1
15. North Carolina 5 13
15. Cincinnati 5 18
15. Utah 5 22
19. Nebraska 4 9
19. Georgia Tech 4 14
19. Oregon State 4 20
22. LSU 3 21
23. Texas 2 4
24. Stanford 1 24
25. TCU 0 5

Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/wr...index.html

Swamp Daddy

[Derek]

I can't see any coaches voting their teams up in this poll.

[Spence]

The numbers in the general population at the schools are almost the same as the althetes so I don't think the story is what SI wants it to be. Now why do 7% of college students have criminal records? That is the story, it you ask me.

[billybud]

Yeas..it does. The best athletes are often young black athletes from single family homes and from tough urban environments.

It is no coincidence that BYU is not on the list, nor ranked.

[RazorHawk]

And just what are these crimes? Stealing a bicycle, or public intox. Or are they felonies? This really means very little if anything. Also and athlete may have a police record for something done while in high school. Also, I am sure that different local police treat athletes mis-behaving differently in different college cities.

[Spence]

Yeas..it does. The best athletes are often young black athletes from single family homes and from tough urban environments.

It is no coincidence that BYU is not on the list, nor ranked.

This study said that the numbers cut across race, so that wasn't an issue. BYU makes players sign a honor code and to their credit, they follow it even if the players is a star on their team. Maybe the other schools should follow BYU's lead.

[billybud]

Yeah...but nobody would be playing anywhere if they had BYU's honor code nationally.

....abstinence from tea, alcohol, and coffee

....no beards, goatees

....no sexual relationships outside of marriage

The above would eliminate 90% of ballplayers.

[Spence]

Or force them to conform if they want to play football. People will do what they have to do.

[billybud]

Gawd...the nuns would have loved ya Spence...back when every boy in my school wore blue pants, white shirt, and a red tie. For too many years I wore that get up...only to change my colors to USMC green. And I was a minor cog in the green machine. Even my underwear was standard issue.

It was a very strange world, indeed, when I started looking around me as a civilian and noting that we all looked different.

Here's to non-conformity! I raise my cup (of coffee) in salute. Conformers may goose step in perfect rythmn but the world needs the the guy who hears that different drum.

[donovan]

...and in this case the true non-conformers are the BYU students. They are the ones are willing to reject the conformity of the world. It is the boys and girls wearing the blue ties and coats and having the nuns enforce the agreed upon rules.

The largest groups of conformers in this worlds are those proclaim to be free spirits.

[billybud]

I was forever corrupted...fell in love with Janice in a Gigi world.

[donovan]

...I know the experience....and Jane Russell may have died, but I wonder what happened to my Life Magazine...

[Spence]

Gawd...the nuns would have loved ya Spence...back when every boy in my school wore blue pants, white shirt, and a red tie. For too many years I wore that get up...only to change my colors to USMC green. And I was a minor cog in the green machine. Even my underwear was standard issue.

It was a very strange world, indeed, when I started looking around me as a civilian and noting that we all looked different.

Here's to non-conformity! I raise my cup (of coffee) in salute. Conformers may goose step in perfect rythmn but the world needs the the guy who hears that different drum.

I was the biggest non conformist you could meet. I did find out, though, if you wanted to make money you had to do what was required to make money. I could have stayed a non conformist - and to some degree we are all a little non conformist - but I wanted to raise a family and I had to grow up. I still today wonder about kids that come in with piercings or tattoo's on their face and want to be in foodservice sales. Maybe one day that will work, it does in retail, but right now it doesn't. I had long hair. I raced cars and bikes. I was in trouble most of my young life. I know lots about not conforming to an extreme degree. I didn't walk the fine line, I crossed it all the time.