sCam Newton

[Dossenator]

[strawman]

Not sure they have to prove he took the money, just trying to rob the bank is a crime.

Exactly...no money had to exchange hands. If it's proven he asked for money from Miss State that makes Cam ineligible at any school he attends...including Auburn.

I don't know enough about how the rule is stated but could ol Cecil have been smart enough to never ask for the money himself, always have a handler do it so that it gives him deniability? If he didn't get any money there won't be any real proof and he can always say Kenny Rogers is lying about him wanting the money. I guess this is why this is dragging on because no really knows what went down and Cecil sure ain't talking.

[Spence]

Not sure they have to prove he took the money, just trying to rob the bank is a crime.

I think that if they caught Cam asking for money, that may be true. I think since it was his dad and he is an adult, money would have to change hands to make him ineligible. I don't exactly know the rule, but it seems to me that Cam Newton would have a case if the NCAA made him ineligible based on a member of his family asking a school he didn't sign with for money. If they had him asking, or had Auburn paying anyone for him to attend - then OK.

I'm not saying that this doesn't stink, but I don't think they can suspend this kid unless they find a money trail - I guess they can suspend his dad.

[Dossenator]

Well per ESPN: Auburn ruled Cam Newton ineligble yesterday. Today the NCAA ruled Cam eligible....there reasoning that Cam and Auburn did not know of the actions of Cecil Newton. It said Auburn has banned Cecil Newton frm Auburn athletic events and Miss St cut ties with Kenny Rogers. They also said the inestigatin is not over and Cam could be ruled ineligible later.

Nothing will ever happen from this. Also, it's ridiculous to say Cam did not know. He wanted to play for Miss St (his own words say he did). Also, how did Auburn not know of potential ineligibility issues. Miss St reported this all to the SEC in January. Why did the SEC league office not contact Auburn to warn them issues could arise. If they did indeed not contact Auburn the Slive needs to resign as commish.

This whole things reeks of poooo!

So now all dad's can ask for money. All the kid has to do is say I didn't know anythng about it. This sets a bad precedent. No way anyone will ever convince me Cam did not know. And a few weeks ago Joe Schad of ESPN read the rules and it was pretty clear that it did not matter if he knew...you solicit mney to play (or anyone for you) and your ineligible. And why did Auburn say Cam was ineligible yesterday? That seems fishy...the very next day the NCAA changes Auburns mind.

As if we did not all ready know, the NCAA is a joke. They ruled this way now because it benefits them now. If anything does happen it will be years down the road and then they will punish Auburn and players and coaches that had no part in all the madness of Cam.

NCAA rule 14.01.3.2

If at any time before or after matriculation in a member institution a student-athlete or any member of his/her family receives or agrees to receive, directly or indirectly, any aid or assistance beyond or in addition to that permitted by the Bylaws of this Conference (except such aid or assistance as such student-athlete may receive from those persons on whom the student is naturally or legally dependent for support), such student- athlete shall be ineligible for competition in any intercollegiate sport within the Conference for the remainder of his/her college career.

It clearly says receives OR agrees...by soliciting you are agreeing. It also clearly says if you or anyone in your family. It says nothing about the player or school having to know about it.

[Spence]

I don't know whether Cam Newton new or didn't know. If my dad did that and I didn't know - I'm not sure we would have a relationship today. Anyway, the problem I have is that it provides a way out for someone who is cheating - whether or not anyone is in this case. All you have to do is send your dad to represent you and let him fall on the sword if they find out.

[Eric]

Yeah this thing stinks to high heaven. You don't think his dad was shopping him on Cam's behalf? Why would his dad go through all that trouble, come across a school willing to dish out thousands of dollars, and then go to Cam Newton and say, "yeah, uh, I found this school that's willing to pay big bucks for you to play there. Do you want to go there? No? Oh, well all that shopping around I did amounted to nothing"

[Yeofoot]

As a football fan, I'd much rather watch Cam Newton highlights then hear about Cecil Newton on ESPN.

[Derek]

Not sure they have to prove he took the money, just trying to rob the bank is a crime.

I think that if they caught Cam asking for money, that may be true. I think since it was his dad and he is an adult, money would have to change hands to make him ineligible. I don't exactly know the rule, but it seems to me that Cam Newton would have a case if the NCAA made him ineligible based on a member of his family asking a school he didn't sign with for money. If they had him asking, or had Auburn paying anyone for him to attend - then OK.

I'm not saying that this doesn't stink, but I don't think they can suspend this kid unless they find a money trail - I guess they can suspend his dad.

According to the rules, if someone goes even on his behalf, without him knowing about it, he is ineligible. Which "technically" makes him ineligible now. Why he's still playing is beyond me.

I know there is no money trail found yet, but the rules do not need a money trail. At least that's what was explained to me.

[Derek]

I know it will throw everything out of whack...but I would LOVE to see Spurry-er pull out some ol ball coach magic and upset Auburn.

This all stinks...it reeks of a back room filled with smoke and Slive giving the secret handshake to a member of the NCAA who also used to be in Skull and Bones at Harvard.

[GoBoilers]

What little credibility (VERY LITTLE) the NCAA used to have with me for theit student/athletes (LOL) is now TOTALLY gone. No respect, no use for them. They are now in the same class as our US Congress.

[donovan]

I know it will throw everything out of whack...but I would LOVE to see Spurry-er pull out some ol ball coach magic and upset Auburn.

This all stinks...it reeks of a back room filled with smoke and Slive giving the secret handshake to a member of the NCAA who also used to be in Skull and Bones at Harvard.

It might be Yale...but we know of what you speak. Seems screwy to me also.

[Spence]

What little credibility (VERY LITTLE) the NCAA used to have with me for theit student/athletes (LOL) is now TOTALLY gone. No respect, no use for them. They are now in the same class as our US Congress.

WOW, I don't know if I put the devil in the same class as our congress.

[WoVeU]

Doss showed the point directly. Derek restated in obvious wording. The NCAA has paralleled, not Congress, but the Suckpreme Court. They just flew in the face of their own rule and set a new precedent.

I don't understand anything anymore. We need some revolution somewhere before all intelligent life is judged and legislated away. Government, companies, and most all organizations are all headed down the same path at a break neck pace.

Get the lights....

[armchairqb]

I know it will throw everything out of whack...but I would LOVE to see Spurry-er pull out some ol ball coach magic and upset Auburn.

This all stinks...it reeks of a back room filled with smoke and Slive giving the secret handshake to a member of the NCAA who also used to be in Skull and Bones at Harvard.

Exactly.

So if South Carolina wins, what dastardly deed will the NCAA think of next?

[Dossenator]

I know it will throw everything out of whack...but I would LOVE to see Spurry-er pull out some ol ball coach magic and upset Auburn.

This all stinks...it reeks of a back room filled with smoke and Slive giving the secret handshake to a member of the NCAA who also used to be in Skull and Bones at Harvard.

Nooooo....the cheaters need to win one more to put Ark in the Sugar Bowl. Then on the big stage (NC Game) for Auburn I want Oregon to absolutely throttle them....send them back to Auburn with their tails between their legs.