Final Bowl Projections

[Spence]

That is the issue entirely. To fund their athletic program Ohio State needs 7-8 home games. You can't get top flight teams to come into your house without a return. The revenue from those home games account for almost half the total athletic budget. That is kind of a big deal.

[Eric]

That is the issue entirely. To fund their athletic program Ohio State needs 7-8 home games. You can't get top flight teams to come into your house without a return. The revenue from those home games account for almost half the total athletic budget. That is kind of a big deal.

Well it's just odd to me because that type of argumentation plays right in to the alleged "Boise State playbook", if you will. The reason Boise State doesn't get away with, "well we scheduled Virginia Tech and Oregon State!" is because they play the entire schedule, and that consists of 8 games against WAC opponents. In BCS conferences, I think Ohio State playing a team like Miami is good enough, although you'd like to see them at the same time take on more competitive teams compared to Eastern Michigan.

[Spence]

I agree. I was on Boise State's side in that argument, though. I still think that Boise State is as good as anyone in the country. The good and bad about their schedule is that if they didn't blow everyone out once the VT and Oregon State games were over, is they were going to drop. Same with Ohio State's schedule this year. It turned out not that good so Ohio State needed to win all their games to make it to the championship game. They didn't. Wisconsin on the other hand, I believe, had a good enough body of work to Jump TCU and be a one loss championship contender if Oregon or Auburn had lost.

BCS games are different. They are about drawing power.

[billybud]

Doss...I was being smart ***.

But I do think it would slow down the awful, awful OCC scheduling of some teams...

[Spence]

I would be for better OOC scheduling. I think it would help revenue overall. It would make ratings better which would give schools more leverage to get better contracts.

[Eric]

Official matchups so far:

TicketCity: Northwestern vs. Texas Tech
Sun: Miami vs. Notre Dame
Meineke Car Care: USF vs. Clemson
Armed Forces: SMU vs. Army
Pinstripe: Syracuse vs. Kansas State
Little Caesar's: Toledo vs. Florida International
Hawaii: Hawaii vs. Tulsa
Poinsettia: San Diego State vs. Navy
Beef O'Brady's: Louisville vs. Southern Miss
Humanitarian: Northern Illinois vs. Fresno State
New Mexico: BYU vs. UTEP

[Dossenator]

Doss...I was being smart ***.

But I do think it would slow down the awful, awful OCC scheduling of some teams...

I was always told that was being better than a dumb one.

I do not mind major conference teams scheduling other BCS teams from non-AQ conferences (Conference USA, WAC, Sunbelt, MWC, etc)...however, I don't like major BCS schools scheduling FCS schools. Ark played Tenn Tech this year. It was a joke of a game. Then you have teams like Arizona State who played two FCS teams this year. That's why I said add the rule if you lose to an FCS school that makes you ineligible to play in a BCS Bowl (I mean how in the world can a team like Virginia Tech be one of the top BCS schools in the country when they can't beat James Madison). That may deter some BCS schools from scheduling teams from the FCS.

[RazorHawk]

Doss...I was being smart ***.

But I do think it would slow down the awful, awful OCC scheduling of some teams...

I was always told that was being better than a dumb one.

I do not mind major conference teams scheduling other BCS teams from non-AQ conferences (Conference USA, WAC, Sunbelt, MWC, etc)...however, I don't like major BCS schools scheduling FCS schools. Ark played Tenn Tech this year. It was a joke of a game. Then you have teams like Arizona State who played two FCS teams this year. That's why I said add the rule if you lose to an FCS school that makes you ineligible to play in a BCS Bowl (I mean how in the world can a team like Virginia Tech be one of the top BCS schools in the country when they can't beat James Madison). That may deter some BCS schools from scheduling teams from the FCS.

I would not like a loss to an FCS team eliminating anyone. First, there are a handful of FCS teams that are as good as any of the bottom half of the FBS schools. Also there are schools that will play an instate FCS team to help them financially, and this could be a deterrent to even scheduling an FCS team.

[Dossenator]

Doss...I was being smart ***.

But I do think it would slow down the awful, awful OCC scheduling of some teams...

I was always told that was being better than a dumb one.

I do not mind major conference teams scheduling other BCS teams from non-AQ conferences (Conference USA, WAC, Sunbelt, MWC, etc)...however, I don't like major BCS schools scheduling FCS schools. Ark played Tenn Tech this year. It was a joke of a game. Then you have teams like Arizona State who played two FCS teams this year. That's why I said add the rule if you lose to an FCS school that makes you ineligible to play in a BCS Bowl (I mean how in the world can a team like Virginia Tech be one of the top BCS schools in the country when they can't beat James Madison). That may deter some BCS schools from scheduling teams from the FCS.

I would not like a loss to an FCS team eliminating anyone. First, there are a handful of FCS teams that are as good as any of the bottom half of the FBS schools. Also there are schools that will play an instate FCS team to help them financially, and this could be a deterrent to even scheduling an FCS team.

So you are saying Virginia Tech is one of the bottom half teams in the FBS? (I still can't get over that Virginia Tech lost to an FCS school and are now ranked among the top 12 in FBS and headed to a BCS bowl....and a team like Michigan State is being left out all together).

[RazorHawk]

I would not like a loss to an FCS team eliminating anyone. First, there are a handful of FCS teams that are as good as any of the bottom half of the FBS schools. Also there are schools that will play an instate FCS team to help them financially, and this could be a deterrent to even scheduling an FCS team.

So you are saying Virginia Tech is one of the bottom half teams in the FBS? (I still can't get over that Virginia Tech lost to an FCS school and are now ranked among the top 12 in FBS and headed to a BCS bowl....and a team like Michigan State is being left out all together).

Not saying that at all. Not even mentioning Va Tech. I am saying that Appy St a few years ago was probably better than half of the FBS teams. Northern Iowa often is in that same category. Iowa last year beat Ga Tech in the Orange Bowl and had to block two back to back FG attempts by N. Iowa to escape. Iowa wound up 10-2 losing only to Ohio St and NW.

[Eric]

There are surrounding circumstances in every game. The James Madison loss was just a hangover effect type game. I mean James Madison did only finish 6-6 in the CAA, but that's not much different from being a 5-7 C-USA team or something like that. The CAA is basically the equivalent of a mediocre non-BCS conference. I like the system the way it is set up. You can hold the James Madison loss against them as a negation, but does running the table in a conference like the ACC count for anything?

Just let the BCS conference winners be in the BCS. Only stipulation I would put on it is that they need to be in the top 20 of the BCS standings.

[Dossenator]

There are surrounding circumstances in every game. The James Madison loss was just a hangover effect type game. I mean James Madison did only finish 6-6 in the CAA, but that's not much different from being a 5-7 C-USA team or something like that. The CAA is basically the equivalent of a mediocre non-BCS conference. I like the system the way it is set up. You can hold the James Madison loss against them as a negation, but does running the table in a conference like the ACC count for anything?

Just let the BCS conference winners be in the BCS. Only stipulation I would put on it is that they need to be in the top 20 of the BCS standings.

I think that says something about the ACC....there conference champ lost to a 6-6 FCS school. That just blows me away. It should never happen on 5 days rest or 1 hour of rest. I would be equally as shocked is a 5-7 C-USA team went to Virginia Tech and won the game.

[Spence]

They probably didn't do any work on James Madison at all and James Madison was playing their superbowl. It shouldn't happen, but it isn't the first time it has and probably won't be the last.

[billybud]

The season is more than one game (my mantra about Boise cuts both ways). The season is the season. VT, with the exception of the jimmy Mad game, has played a good season.

Heck, my thought might be that no team should play in the BCS title game that couldn't beat a four loss ACC team in regulation. That also is mind boggling.

[billybud]

Clemson came in next to last in the Atlantic Division (they did finish ahead of Wake).