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Re: SEC accepts Texas A&M unanimously

Postby donovan » Wed Sep 07, 2011 10:41 pm

16 teams did not work in the WAC for reasons that had little to do with football and SOS. But history is not a great teacher to revisionists.
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Re: SEC accepts Texas A&M unanimously

Postby WoVeU » Wed Sep 07, 2011 11:23 pm

Spence wrote:It is going to happen anyway. I'm not sure why they would waste the money in a lawsuit, unless it was civil.


It could only be civil...right? I don't know the collective arrangement in these conferences...whether the schools sign on, thereby in agreement with the Conference, or they agree as a mutual and then a Conference is formed, and is then equivalent to a Board. If the case is the latter then a school like A&M would have a problem with breech of contract. If it is the former and the Conference issued a letter of agreement or no contest, then they are suing for damages (subsequent) which is shakier than Stephen Hawking's joy stick control.
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Re: SEC accepts Texas A&M unanimously

Postby WoVeU » Wed Sep 07, 2011 11:57 pm

Tony Barnhart goes around the horn on who might be the invite' to the SEC...

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/story/15542578/when-am-move-gets-done-wholl-be-the-secs-lucky-14

???They don't sell beer in SEC stadiums???
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Re: SEC accepts Texas A&M unanimously

Postby Spence » Thu Sep 08, 2011 12:25 am

WoVeU wrote:
Spence wrote:It is going to happen anyway. I'm not sure why they would waste the money in a lawsuit, unless it was civil.


It could only be civil...right? I don't know the collective arrangement in these conferences...whether the schools sign on, thereby in agreement with the Conference, or they agree as a mutual and then a Conference is formed, and is then equivalent to a Board. If the case is the latter then a school like A&M would have a problem with breech of contract. If it is the former and the Conference issued a letter of agreement or no contest, then they are suing for damages (subsequent) which is shakier than Stephen Hawking's joy stick control.


I don't know. I guess if there are no laws broken. There are anti-trust issues that could be taken up. I don't think anyone could make them finish an agreement with the B12 if they didn't want to, they could only make them pay damages. I understand Baylor's point though. Schools like Baylor could very well be on the outside looking in if the B12 folds.
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Re: SEC accepts Texas A&M unanimously

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Spence wrote:
WoVeU wrote:
Spence wrote:It is going to happen anyway. I'm not sure why they would waste the money in a lawsuit, unless it was civil.


It could only be civil...right? I don't know the collective arrangement in these conferences...whether the schools sign on, thereby in agreement with the Conference, or they agree as a mutual and then a Conference is formed, and is then equivalent to a Board. If the case is the latter then a school like A&M would have a problem with breech of contract. If it is the former and the Conference issued a letter of agreement or no contest, then they are suing for damages (subsequent) which is shakier than Stephen Hawking's joy stick control.


I don't know. I guess if there are no laws broken. There are anti-trust issues that could be taken up. I don't think anyone could make them finish an agreement with the B12 if they didn't want to, they could only make them pay damages. I understand Baylor's point though. Schools like Baylor could very well be on the outside looking in if the B12 folds.

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Re: SEC accepts Texas A&M unanimously

Postby warrriorsfan808 » Thu Sep 08, 2011 8:26 am

The fear of the conference folding under them has them scarred. Imagine how SMU felt when it happened to them and they had to take what they could get in the end. Now THE AGGIES are planning ahead and these schools are crying foul. Next how is it the members of the BIG 12 Board whose members are elected to make decisions for their member schools voted to let A&M go then turn around and say they are not speaking for their schools, but for the conference. If this is the case how do we know when "THE BOARD" is speaking for the conference or the individual schools!?!

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Re: SEC accepts Texas A&M unanimously

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warrriorsfan808 wrote:The fear of the conference folding under them has them scarred. Imagine how SMU felt when it happened to them and they had to take what they could get in the end. Now THE AGGIES are planning ahead and these schools are crying foul. Next how is it the members of the BIG 12 Board whose members are elected to make decisions for their member schools voted to let A&M go then turn around and say they are not speaking for their schools, but for the conference. If this is the case how do we know when "THE BOARD" is speaking for the conference or the individual schools!?!


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Re: SEC accepts Texas A&M unanimously

Postby Dossenator » Thu Sep 08, 2011 10:15 am

Where was the outrage and lawsuits last year when Nebraska and Colorado left the conference?
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Re: SEC accepts Texas A&M unanimously

Postby Dossenator » Thu Sep 08, 2011 10:21 am

WoVeU wrote:
???They don't sell beer in SEC stadiums???


That's correct. That doesn't mean drinking doesn't take place in the stadium. However, if caught you are removed and I have seen it happen on several occasions. There is plenty of drinking during the tailgates. Lots of fans are plastered when they enter the stadium....I would hate to see these folks actually drink more.

You know I almost stopped going to baseball games in Southern CA when I lived there because by the 4th inning everyone around me was drunk. I had a beer poured all over me because some jerk could not walk straight, stumbled, and poured it all over my back. I am actually glad no beer is sold at Razorback stadium.

I know that punishes those who drink responsibly, but it sure does make for a better atmosphere.
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Re: SEC accepts Texas A&M unanimously

Postby WoVeU » Thu Sep 08, 2011 10:54 am

Dossenator wrote:
WoVeU wrote:
???They don't sell beer in SEC stadiums???


That's correct. That doesn't mean drinking doesn't take place in the stadium. However, if caught you are removed and I have seen it happen on several occasions. There is plenty of drinking during the tailgates. Lots of fans are plastered when they enter the stadium....I would hate to see these folks actually drink more.

You know I almost stopped going to baseball games in Southern CA when I lived there because by the 4th inning everyone around me was drunk. I had a beer poured all over me because some jerk could not walk straight, stumbled, and poured it all over my back. I am actually glad no beer is sold at Razorback stadium.

I know that punishes those who drink responsibly, but it sure does make for a better atmosphere.


I have no problem with it, just this year WVU has cut off beer sales in the 2nd half. I love beer and I drink responsibly, for the most part, but never start trouble or drive if I have too many...I am just looking for a place to sleep (very rare mind you). Further, that swill they vend at every large venues isn't much in the way of beer to me, American Light Lager...and I then have my mom's opinion on the stuff in general, 1st big cold drink when you are hot and dry, very good...after that, you can keep it. If they want to get me excited about beverages they need to offer some very good coffee, Lord knows they would charge enough to make plenty of money if they did!!!
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Re: SEC accepts Texas A&M unanimously

Postby WoVeU » Thu Sep 08, 2011 11:05 am

warrriorsfan808 wrote:
Spence wrote:
WoVeU wrote:
Spence wrote:It is going to happen anyway. I'm not sure why they would waste the money in a lawsuit, unless it was civil.


It could only be civil...right? I don't know the collective arrangement in these conferences...whether the schools sign on, thereby in agreement with the Conference, or they agree as a mutual and then a Conference is formed, and is then equivalent to a Board. If the case is the latter then a school like A&M would have a problem with breech of contract. If it is the former and the Conference issued a letter of agreement or no contest, then they are suing for damages (subsequent) which is shakier than Stephen Hawking's joy stick control.


I don't know. I guess if there are no laws broken. There are anti-trust issues that could be taken up. I don't think anyone could make them finish an agreement with the B12 if they didn't want to, they could only make them pay damages. I understand Baylor's point though. Schools like Baylor could very well be on the outside looking in if the B12 folds.


Extraction from the Charleston Gazette Article, How will SEC shakeup affect WVU, Big East?, by Mitch Vingle,

"First, as you might have read elsewhere on this page, the Southeastern Conference will absorb Texas A&M when legal concerns are cleared. Baylor apparently has blocked the move by claiming tortious interference. That occurs when a business contract is intentionally damaged. Call it self-preservation from a Baylor school that might be left standing when the expansion music stops."
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Re: SEC accepts Texas A&M unanimously

Postby Dossenator » Thu Sep 08, 2011 11:20 am

WoVeU wrote: If they want to get me excited about beverages they need to offer some very good coffee, Lord knows they would charge enough to make plenty of money if they did!!!


They would definitely make money from coffee. The prices for everything is outrageous. I purchased two bottles of water the Razorback game this past Sat. $4 a bottle...so $8 dollars for water. Just crazy.
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Re: SEC accepts Texas A&M unanimously

Postby billybud » Thu Sep 08, 2011 11:23 am

Sooooo?

If WVU is invited with the caveat that each and every Big East school must sign a "no sue waiver", could WVU get that waiver commitment from BE schools?

And, considering that the Big East has sued the ACC on their expansion, I'd think that this is what the SEC would demand.
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Re: SEC accepts Texas A&M unanimously

Postby donovan » Thu Sep 08, 2011 11:34 am

Dossenator wrote:
WoVeU wrote: If they want to get me excited about beverages they need to offer some very good coffee, Lord knows they would charge enough to make plenty of money if they did!!!


They would definitely make money from coffee. The prices for everything is outrageous. I purchased two bottles of water the Razorback game this past Sat. $4 a bottle...so $8 dollars for water. Just crazy.


I was raised on hose water. When it was hot....that good old rubbery taste....yummy....and...if you don't like your coffee prices...(I don't happen to drink coffee) then come up here to Seattle and pay the price these granola Birkenstock tree hugging wide eyed liberals pay for their Starbucks and Tullys and Seattle's Best sometimes thrice a day.

I went to a baseball game the other day...well I have seen a lot of baseball this summer...but I bought a bag...a bag..mind you....of Cracker Jacks..not a box...something is just wrong about that...and there was this lame prize..some kind of eat your fruit sticker...and one lousy...one I say....peanut....What does the Tea Party plan to do about these real issues....
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Re: SEC accepts Texas A&M unanimously

Postby billybud » Thu Sep 08, 2011 11:37 am

No peanuts in your Crackerjacks?

Maybe you got caramel popcorn and a unpooped kernel that you assumed was a peanut. We get confused as we age.
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