A Moratorium on Boise State, For All That is Holy...

[Eric]

I think everything that has needed to be said has been said. Yes the schedule is weak, yes we don't know how good they actually will be until they play a tougher schedule, yes we realize that they are still a very good team and that it's not their fault that they play in the WAC, yes we know the Virginia Tech win ought not be diminished even though they lost to James Madison in a let-down game (that happened 5 days after the last football game which apparently works as an excuse for one team ), yes we know that Boise State plays on a blue field, yes we know Boise State will blow out everybody on their schedule by at least 35 points until the road game in Reno, etc.

Is there anything else going on in college football?

[Spence]

It is a big topic of conversation right now in CFB. Beats comparing the "golden years" or one team compared to anothers.

[Eric]

It is a big topic of conversation right now in CFB. Beats comparing the "golden years" or one team compared to anothers.

At this point, I may prefer the latter

Actually, if it's going to be reduced into an "SEC Speed" topic, that would be number one on the list of "please don't talk about this, this is beyond getting old" topics. Let's just create a new league for the South bounded by the Mississippi River and the Mason-Dixon line and let them have their speed fests. I prefer watching slower teams anyway, the warp speed really makes me confused and uncomfortable as a fan.

I like it slow! I can't wait for the Ohio State / Michigan game when Terelle Pryor and DeVier Posey come tumbling in at 300 pounds taking on Michigan with their 450 pound lineman and 250 pound grinding running backs. You know, three yards and a cloud of dust. Because this is 1980.

[donovan]

Censorship is alive and well...I might just point out..the Boise supporters on this site are not the ones that keep bringing Boise up. Stanford at Oregon is the do not miss game for me. I think Stanford may do the upset thing. Florida and Alabama will be telling....I think Alabama will be exposed as the paper tiger.

[Eric]

Censorship is alive and well...I might just point out..the Boise supporters on this site are not the ones that keep bringing Boise up. Stanford at Oregon is the do not miss game for me. I think Stanford may do the upset thing. Florida and Alabama will be telling....I think Alabama will be exposed as the paper tiger.

I never suggested censorship. I was just expressing how tired I am of hearing about this "do they belong, do they not belong". It gets old after a while. Especially on this board, considering how this discussion dates back to (at least) 2007. I was pleading for a moratorium, not enforcing one

[Dossenator]

I am tired of it too. I will wait until the season plays out and then we can talk about it before bowl selections. My guess is that we will look at Boise's schedule and they will have no end of the year ranked opponents. But it's really meaningless to discuss it now...kind of like hyping players up for the Heisman before the season even begins.

[WoVeU]

But it's really meaningless to discuss it now...kind of like hyping players up for the Heisman before the season even begins.

Isn't that a college football stapel?

[silverfox]

hmmmm....

Seems to me that this is a football fan site since most of the posters here are fans and not unbiased professional journalists and analysts.

Very hard to gag a fan.

Why the rules only apply to one specific named team?

Fair is fair -- apply that same moratorium to all the teams and then watch this board turn into ghost town.

Donovan is right ... Most of the posts involving all the garbage did not involve Boise supporters.

And something else -- isn't it interesting?

no end of the year ranked opponents

Thats a good one! Like, it seems BSU and other teams throughout the year have a tendency (or bad habit) of knocking off teams so they don't make the rankings by the end of the year.... So that doesn't count? My goodness... Lets change the rules some more... same ole, same ole.

I thought the idea was that the end of year ranked opponents play each other in the various bowls...and that purpose supposedly is to see who can beat whom since it is an impossibility for all teams to play every other team in the nation in a season, or year or maybe even decade.

As for me? Season is still young. Sorry if your perception is that certain teams have powderpuff schedules compared to others.

Follow the money. That is the real albatross behind all of this. The haves and the have nots. Those that have certainly do not want to play a have not because its possible they might have to share and split the pie into more sections. That is taboo. So just keep the door closed.

As for me I am a college football fan with more than a little knowledge than some might expect -- but a lot less than others.

Moratorium? Great! On all teams. Fair is fair.

[silverfox]

And By the way -- I also believe Stanford is going to beat Oregon.

[billybud]

Stanford is good this year.

[Eric]

hmmmm....

Seems to me that this is a football fan site since most of the posters here are fans and not unbiased professional journalists and analysts.

Very hard to gag a fan.

Why the rules only apply to one specific named team?

Fair is fair -- apply that same moratorium to all the teams and then watch this board turn into ghost town.

Donovan is right ... Most of the posts involving all the garbage did not involve Boise supporters.

And something else -- isn't it interesting?

no end of the year ranked opponents

Thats a good one! Like, it seems BSU and other teams throughout the year have a tendency (or bad habit) of knocking off teams so they don't make the rankings by the end of the year.... So that doesn't count? My goodness... Lets change the rules some more... same ole, same ole.

I thought the idea was that the end of year ranked opponents play each other in the various bowls...and that purpose supposedly is to see who can beat whom since it is an impossibility for all teams to play every other team in the nation in a season, or year or maybe even decade.

As for me? Season is still young. Sorry if your perception is that certain teams have powderpuff schedules compared to others.

Follow the money. That is the real albatross behind all of this. The haves and the have nots. Those that have certainly do not want to play a have not because its possible they might have to share and split the pie into more sections. That is taboo. So just keep the door closed.

As for me I am a college football fan with more than a little knowledge than some might expect -- but a lot less than others.

Moratorium? Great! On all teams. Fair is fair.

Look, my sentiment isn't anti-Boise State at all. You can talk about Boise State to your heart's content. All I'm saying is that there is nothing left to say about the Broncos and their ability to play for the BCS championship. Let's just pick the discussion back up in November, all that has been said has been said. It's not picking on one team, it's picking on one team that has dominated 80% of college football chatter over the first three weeks

[Dossenator]

Donovan, I am not anti Boise either. I am pretty impartial towards them...I could care less if they win or lose. I am not trying to change the rules as it pertains to Boise. I think at the end of the year (before the bowl selections) and look at each teams scedules that are being considered for BCS bowls (especially those being considered for the BCS NC game). If no one on your schedule is ranked at the end of the year then you played a terribly weak schedule. Oregon State had no business being ranked (they are more then likely the 6th best team in the Pac 10 this year). If a team like Bama goes undefeated they will look back and see 4-6 end of the year ranked opponents on their schedule. I don't understand why people can not see how unfair it is too even consider Boise for the championship game. It's just ridiculous. That's all I will day about this subject until the end of the year. If Virginia Tech, Oregon State, and say Nevada are all ranked before the bowl games then I would be inclined to change my mind.

[Dossenator]

I also dislike the blue font as much as the blue turf. It's hard on the eyes. I have all ready decided not to watch any Boise games, played in Boise, until that turf is green. I mght choose not to read the blue font as well...seriously, on my screen it is hard to read.

[Vileborg]

I think I'm down for a moratorium on the subject just cause I don't have anything else I want or could say. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion otherwise we wouldn't have anything to discuss. People have made some very valid points on both sides of the discussion and I respect their point of view and their opinions.

If anything I am being closed minded when it comes to Boise. I have laid down a blanket ultimatum to put them in the NC and have been bull headed in sticking to that ultimatum. I do not know if past years merits should count towards this year or whether they should only be judged on what they have done this season. I can understand both sides of that argument, and if I throw out previous accomplishments Ohio St., Alabama, and Oregon would be my top 3. Boise would be ranked somewhere between 7-10 and only because they beat Oregon St. this past weekend.

Anyway to each their own. It is your god given right to believe how you want to believe and I'll respect and understand your beliefs even when they are counter to my own.

Now, I'm taking a vow of silence on the subject, no more Boise St. rants outside of this thread. I will let the season play out and only come November should the subject need discussion will I approach the subject again.

[RazorHawk]

I think I'm down for a moratorium on the subject just cause I don't have anything else I want or could say. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion otherwise we wouldn't have anything to discuss. People have made some very valid points on both sides of the discussion and I respect their point of view and their opinions.

If anything I am being closed minded when it comes to Boise. I have laid down a blanket ultimatum to put them in the NC and have been bull headed in sticking to that ultimatum. I do not know if past years merits should count towards this year or whether they should only be judged on what they have done this season. I can understand both sides of that argument, and if I throw out previous accomplishments Ohio St., Alabama, and Oregon would be my top 3. Boise would be ranked somewhere between 7-10 and only because they beat Oregon St. this past weekend.

Anyway to each their own. It is your god given right to believe how you want to believe and I'll respect and understand your beliefs even when they are counter to my own.

Now, I'm taking a vow of silence on the subject, no more Boise St. rants outside of this thread. I will let the season play out and only come November should the subject need discussion will I approach the subject again.

I could not have said it any better. I think we totally agree.