Texas Longhorns

Say it all here
Forum rules
NOTICE: Please be sure to check the CFP Message Board Rules and Regulations and the Read Me page before posting.
User avatar
WoVeU
Athletic Director
Athletic Director
Posts: 6074
Joined: Sun Sep 02, 2007 9:55 pm
Location: New Braunfels, Texas
Contact:

Texas Longhorns

Postby WoVeU » Sun Oct 02, 2011 3:57 pm

So when you get a Network do you get bonus points in the polls? How does a team go from NBE and get wins over Rice, BYU, UCLA, and Iowa St. and be ranked #10 and #11 in the polls? :?

I have to assume that over the next 2 weeks they will lose to Oklahoma and Oklahoma St. But I then also have to suspect that losing to teams ranked 3rd and 6th means they will still be ranked in the top 20. And I am no Texas hater, not at all, I have plenty of friends who are Texas fans (of course) so without a real legitimate reason to dislike them, I have to pull for them. I, still, after all of these years hate much of the rankings shenanigans. {And let me note, I'd love to see them beat Oklahoma!} But I ain't buying that ranking by a good measure!
Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves.
If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.
R. Reagan

User avatar
Spence
Administrator
Administrator
Posts: 21235
Joined: Wed Dec 28, 2005 11:52 pm
Location: Chillicothe, Ohio (Ohio's First Capital)
Contact:

Re: Texas Longhorns

Postby Spence » Sun Oct 02, 2011 4:22 pm

Texas is one of 10-12 teams that only needs to win to be ranked. It isn't fair, but that is the way it is.
"History doesn't always repeat itself but it often rhymes." - Mark Twain

User avatar
WoVeU
Athletic Director
Athletic Director
Posts: 6074
Joined: Sun Sep 02, 2007 9:55 pm
Location: New Braunfels, Texas
Contact:

Re: Texas Longhorns

Postby WoVeU » Sun Oct 02, 2011 8:41 pm

I get that Spence, but ugggh...they were especially bad last year!!! It hurt me to even watch them. I don't have a problem w/ the dozen teams that just need to win to be ranked. 75% of the time it just saves time to be realistic. But w/ last season in mind, which I think is very relevant, and their current SOS (not that we know a whole lot yet), Top 15 is quite a stretch. Now, this is what gets me, the credit that the Oaks will get by beating them...and I'll have to hear all the hype about the top 10 match-up this week and the grandness of the Red River Rivalry!
Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves.
If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.
R. Reagan

User avatar
Eric
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 10287
Joined: Thu Dec 29, 2005 1:51 am

Re: Texas Longhorns

Postby Eric » Mon Oct 03, 2011 1:00 am

Well, I think it's justifiable because who else are you going to rank ahead of them? I ran into a situation where I had a ton of fringe top 10 teams (Florida, Virginia Tech, South Carolina, Nebraska), who are all probably better than Texas, lose. I'm uncomfortable with having a team lose and stay where they are when they don't lose to a top 5 team. Texas is undefeated right now so I'm moving them up for the time being.

The season will sort it all out. I don't really even pay attention to the rankings at this point.
Running bowl/MSU/OSU record '05-present: 11-32

User avatar
strawman
Assistant Coach
Assistant Coach
Posts: 259
Joined: Sat Aug 22, 2009 7:19 pm
Location: Physically NC, in my heart - Austin TX

Re: Texas Longhorns

Postby strawman » Mon Oct 03, 2011 8:23 am

I think they moved up by default because as Eric said a lot of teams ahead of them all lost. They will probably lose the next 2 and fall right back out and then eventually work their way back to about #20 by the end of it all.
The Coach K Slam - Olympic Champion, World Champion, NCAA Champion, ACC Champion

User avatar
donovan
Athletic Director
Athletic Director
Posts: 8634
Joined: Wed Oct 04, 2006 6:41 am
Location: Pacific Northwest

Re: Texas Longhorns

Postby donovan » Mon Oct 03, 2011 9:07 am

They moved up for the same reason Boise State moved down.
Statistics are the Morphine of College Football

User avatar
Spence
Administrator
Administrator
Posts: 21235
Joined: Wed Dec 28, 2005 11:52 pm
Location: Chillicothe, Ohio (Ohio's First Capital)
Contact:

Re: Texas Longhorns

Postby Spence » Mon Oct 03, 2011 11:30 am

Boise State shouldn't have moved down. There was no justification. The manipulating of the polls is wrong. I have said before that homerism should be expected in individual polls, but negative ranking - against teams is what polutes a poll. You can't have those things and have an honest poll. I thought the polls were pretty honest before the Nebraska thing early in the BCS, since then, they have been unfair.
"History doesn't always repeat itself but it often rhymes." - Mark Twain

User avatar
Vileborg
Coordinator
Coordinator
Posts: 961
Joined: Tue Sep 26, 2006 1:32 pm
Location: Austin, Tx

Re: Texas Longhorns

Postby Vileborg » Tue Oct 04, 2011 8:13 am

If Texas handed the reigns to Case McCoy and said it's your team and your time I'd give them a shot against Oklahoma. This two QB system that MB thinks he's manufacturing wins with won't fly against good competition. It's like Va Tech's run game, it works when your playing "X" fill game of the week but not against real competition and coaching.

McCoy is every bit the gamer just like his brother. He may not look good on paper but anybody with an IQ over 3 shreds the paper when you see him play. Unfortunately, MB's IQ is a struggling 2. Give him the reigns, let him make plays and win games for you. The whole team has been uplifted by the hope he brings. When you see a guy duck four guys in the backfield and pick up an open receiver on the run for 30 yards you want to contribute and your willing to give more of yourself to help that guy out.

If Case McCoy starts and is allowed to do his thing then I give the Longhorns a good shot at winning. If Mack tries to rotate Ash in every other play I think OU walks all over them.

Mack Brown needs to take off them high dollar threads, put back on a blue collar shirt, and get off his cloud nine that Colt McCoy put him on and go back to learning how to coach. He gets some of the best talent in the country and he squanders it unless theres a McCoy under center. Colt made him look like a genius, and when he was exposed last year we found out that unless he's in the shadow of a McCoy the emperor's new clothes don't look so good.

Granted McCoy never brought them the crystal ball but he at least gave them a shot and had he not been injured in 2009 he may very well have brought it home. In four years he lost 8 games. 3 of which he was injured but recorded the loss as a starter. Two of which he was injured early in the first five plays and his team couldn't do anything to win the game without him.

Number of games lost by the Longhorns last year? *****"7"*****
Number of games lost when McCoy played more than a series? ****"6"**** in four years.

User avatar
Derek
Administrator
Administrator
Posts: 6112
Joined: Fri Dec 30, 2005 2:04 am
Location: Brooks, GA
Contact:

Re: Texas Longhorns

Postby Derek » Tue Oct 04, 2011 11:55 pm

donovan wrote:They moved up for the same reason Boise State moved down.


Can we get a like button on this board? :lol:
They’re either going to run the ball here or their going to pass it.

The fewer rules a coach has, the fewer rules there are for players to break.

See, well ya see, the thing is, he should have caught that ball. But the ball is bigger than his hands.

- John Madden

User avatar
GoBoilers
Head Coach
Head Coach
Posts: 1374
Joined: Sun Dec 23, 2007 3:52 pm
Location: New Braunfels (San Antonio area), TX

Re: Texas Longhorns

Postby GoBoilers » Thu Oct 06, 2011 8:01 pm

We'll see Saturday what the Horns are made of. I believe they'll be beat by 14+. If so, my next comment becomes more valid. Notre Dame-as much as I destest them, is the best 2 loss team in the country closely followed by Texas A&M. Now that is going out on a limb!
The preceding statements are solely the opinion of GoBoilers and are, therefore, probably not based whatsoever on fact, research or more time in thought than what was required to physically type them. They're probably correct anyway, so you shouldn't argue too much, because otherwise he'll just blather on forever. On the internet Al Gore invented.

User avatar
Spence
Administrator
Administrator
Posts: 21235
Joined: Wed Dec 28, 2005 11:52 pm
Location: Chillicothe, Ohio (Ohio's First Capital)
Contact:

Re: Texas Longhorns

Postby Spence » Thu Oct 06, 2011 8:37 pm

I think A&M is the best two loss team. I don't think it is close. Notre Dame has a pretty good team too, not as good as A&M IMO.
"History doesn't always repeat itself but it often rhymes." - Mark Twain

User avatar
WoVeU
Athletic Director
Athletic Director
Posts: 6074
Joined: Sun Sep 02, 2007 9:55 pm
Location: New Braunfels, Texas
Contact:

Re: Texas Longhorns

Postby WoVeU » Thu Oct 06, 2011 9:39 pm

Vileborg wrote:If Texas handed the reigns to Case McCoy and said it's your team and your time I'd give them a shot against Oklahoma. This two QB system that MB thinks he's manufacturing wins with won't fly against good competition. It's like Va Tech's run game, it works when your playing "X" fill game of the week but not against real competition and coaching.

McCoy is every bit the gamer just like his brother. He may not look good on paper but anybody with an IQ over 3 shreds the paper when you see him play. Unfortunately, MB's IQ is a struggling 2. Give him the reigns, let him make plays and win games for you. The whole team has been uplifted by the hope he brings. When you see a guy duck four guys in the backfield and pick up an open receiver on the run for 30 yards you want to contribute and your willing to give more of yourself to help that guy out.

If Case McCoy starts and is allowed to do his thing then I give the Longhorns a good shot at winning. If Mack tries to rotate Ash in every other play I think OU walks all over them.

Mack Brown needs to take off them high dollar threads, put back on a blue collar shirt, and get off his cloud nine that Colt McCoy put him on and go back to learning how to coach. He gets some of the best talent in the country and he squanders it unless theres a McCoy under center. Colt made him look like a genius, and when he was exposed last year we found out that unless he's in the shadow of a McCoy the emperor's new clothes don't look so good.

Granted McCoy never brought them the crystal ball but he at least gave them a shot and had he not been injured in 2009 he may very well have brought it home. In four years he lost 8 games. 3 of which he was injured but recorded the loss as a starter. Two of which he was injured early in the first five plays and his team couldn't do anything to win the game without him.

Number of games lost by the Longhorns last year? *****"7"*****
Number of games lost when McCoy played more than a series? ****"6"**** in four years.


That is what I call laying it down! Mack doesn't even seem the same anymore...softer in speech in mannerisms, not that he ever was a cowboy.
Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves.
If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.
R. Reagan

User avatar
WoVeU
Athletic Director
Athletic Director
Posts: 6074
Joined: Sun Sep 02, 2007 9:55 pm
Location: New Braunfels, Texas
Contact:

Re: Texas Longhorns

Postby WoVeU » Sat Oct 08, 2011 1:55 pm

Like I said...not even close to #11 or 10! The river is red with Longhorn blood! 34-10 @ the half.
Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves.
If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.
R. Reagan

User avatar
GoBoilers
Head Coach
Head Coach
Posts: 1374
Joined: Sun Dec 23, 2007 3:52 pm
Location: New Braunfels (San Antonio area), TX

Re: Texas Longhorns

Postby GoBoilers » Sat Oct 08, 2011 2:53 pm

GoBoilers wrote:We'll see Saturday what the Horns are made of. I believe they'll be beat by 14+. If so, my next comment becomes more valid. Notre Dame-as much as I destest them, is the best 2 loss team in the country closely followed by Texas A&M. Now that is going out on a limb!

Texas is exposed. A&M and ND could run their schedule except A&M has the tougher schedule to do that. OU will be tough.
The preceding statements are solely the opinion of GoBoilers and are, therefore, probably not based whatsoever on fact, research or more time in thought than what was required to physically type them. They're probably correct anyway, so you shouldn't argue too much, because otherwise he'll just blather on forever. On the internet Al Gore invented.

User avatar
warrriorsfan808
Assistant Coach
Assistant Coach
Posts: 419
Joined: Sun Oct 19, 2008 6:31 am
Location: Live In: Honolulu, Hi Born In: New Braunfels, Texas

Re: Texas Longhorns

Postby warrriorsfan808 » Sat Oct 08, 2011 3:13 pm

:lol: ...and the SOONERS score again!!!! 55-10 :lol:


Return to “General Discussion”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Bing [Bot], Google [Bot] and 44 guests