How Will This Affect SOS In The Playoff Era?

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Re: How Will This Affect SOS In The Playoff Era?

Postby Spence » Sun Sep 16, 2012 2:47 pm

Ohio State has to play one in state school a year. There are plenty of FBS teams in Ohio, but rarely will any help your SOS. I think there are so many teams that play cupcake games that it doesn't matter.
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Re: How Will This Affect SOS In The Playoff Era?

Postby Derek » Sun Sep 16, 2012 4:34 pm

Well, Georgia plays GT every year as the last game. I don't want that to stop, even though it's out of conference.

If they were forced to play another team, it would be a joke. I don't like that they play Georgia Southern...it's not a fair game really.

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Re: How Will This Affect SOS In The Playoff Era?

Postby billybud » Sun Sep 16, 2012 5:03 pm

As some conferences go to 9 conference games annually, there will be fill in games with real cupcakes who need the money....Because it becomes more and more difficult to schedule home and home series when there are 9 (and 10 for some teams like FSU) set games a year.
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Re: How Will This Affect SOS In The Playoff Era?

Postby billybud » Sun Sep 16, 2012 5:05 pm

Infact...FSU is asking that the ACC rethink its 9 conferene game schedule since now Notre Dame will be a mandated OOC game for some teams...FSU, Clemson, and GT already have an annual SEC rival...every third year, these teams would have one available game to be scheduled at an ACC set date.
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Re: How Will This Affect SOS In The Playoff Era?

Postby donovan » Sun Sep 16, 2012 6:44 pm

If SOS meant anything Iowa State would currently be ranked number one in the nation....

With tradition out the window, SOS should mean everything....

It however, will not...money will mean everything....

I truly dislike rivalry day has been so diminished....those are games where SOS means ZIP and everyone of them, last game of the year are so called upsets just waiting to happen.

I think Alabama is probably the best team in the country. It may be FSU, very close. If SOS counts on how they have performed this year so far against the level of competition, they are not even ranked.
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Re: How Will This Affect SOS In The Playoff Era?

Postby billybud » Mon Sep 17, 2012 7:51 am

Yep...we'll know more if FSU beats a Top Ten Clemson...
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Re: How Will This Affect SOS In The Playoff Era?

Postby Spence » Mon Sep 17, 2012 9:04 am

donovan wrote:If SOS meant anything Iowa State would currently be ranked number one in the nation....

With tradition out the window, SOS should mean everything....

It however, will not...money will mean everything....

I truly dislike rivalry day has been so diminished....those are games where SOS means ZIP and everyone of them, last game of the year are so called upsets just waiting to happen.

I think Alabama is probably the best team in the country. It may be FSU, very close. If SOS counts on how they have performed this year so far against the level of competition, they are not even ranked.


The problem is they don't measure SOS, they use perceived SOS. There is no criteria in place to measure the strength of a team but the "eye" test and personal bias.
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Re: How Will This Affect SOS In The Playoff Era?

Postby donovan » Mon Sep 17, 2012 10:00 am

billybud wrote:In fact...FSU is asking that the ACC rethink its 9 conference game schedule since now Notre Dame will be a mandated OOC game for some teams...FSU, Clemson, and GT already have an annual SEC rival...every third year, these teams would have one available game to be scheduled at an ACC set date.


It will be difficult for College Football to "rethink" anything when in fact, they did not think it out in the first place.

Seems to me FSU got themselves, well, they didn't get themselves, they were left holding the bag, into scheduling problems this year because the NCAAKGB just on their back-porch and allowed all of this Chinese Communist fire-drill shuffling of conferences. It's been like bargain basement sale days at Macys...

Anyway, FSU's schedule from here on out will prove their mettle; and I think it is pretty good.
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Re: How Will This Affect SOS In The Playoff Era?

Postby billybud » Mon Sep 17, 2012 10:56 am

FSU would have played Air Force, WVU, USF, and Florida in OOC...

Both WVU and Florida are ranked in the Top 15 right now.....

I do like playing the Irish every third year in OOC...
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Re: How Will This Affect SOS In The Playoff Era?

Postby WoVeU » Tue Sep 18, 2012 10:32 pm

billybud wrote:FSU would have played Air Force, WVU, USF, and Florida in OOC...

Both WVU and Florida are ranked in the Top 15 right now.....

I do like playing the Irish every third year in OOC...


I would have liked to have seen what that SOS would have looked like. Would have to have been the top OOC SOS!
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Re: How Will This Affect SOS In The Playoff Era?

Postby WoVeU » Tue Sep 18, 2012 10:34 pm

Spence wrote:
donovan wrote:If SOS meant anything Iowa State would currently be ranked number one in the nation....

With tradition out the window, SOS should mean everything....

It however, will not...money will mean everything....

I truly dislike rivalry day has been so diminished....those are games where SOS means ZIP and everyone of them, last game of the year are so called upsets just waiting to happen.

I think Alabama is probably the best team in the country. It may be FSU, very close. If SOS counts on how they have performed this year so far against the level of competition, they are not even ranked.


The problem is they don't measure SOS, they use perceived SOS. There is no criteria in place to measure the strength of a team but the "eye" test and personal bias.


Right! The best version is the reflective one, of course, left with the same bias and prevailing speculation that yields the polls...but a far cry better than the prognostic ones.
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Re: How Will This Affect SOS In The Playoff Era?

Postby Derek » Thu Sep 20, 2012 10:04 pm

Spence wrote:
donovan wrote:If SOS meant anything Iowa State would currently be ranked number one in the nation....

With tradition out the window, SOS should mean everything....

It however, will not...money will mean everything....

I truly dislike rivalry day has been so diminished....those are games where SOS means ZIP and everyone of them, last game of the year are so called upsets just waiting to happen.

I think Alabama is probably the best team in the country. It may be FSU, very close. If SOS counts on how they have performed this year so far against the level of competition, they are not even ranked.


The problem is they don't measure SOS, they use perceived SOS. There is no criteria in place to measure the strength of a team but the "eye" test and personal bias.



Even though I like SOS in determining some things...it's kind of meaningless this early in the year IMO. You have to have 6+ games under your belt to expose the bad teams.

Which, as I understand it, the reason they don't even start the computers until half way through.
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Re: How Will This Affect SOS In The Playoff Era?

Postby Spence » Thu Sep 20, 2012 10:15 pm

What would be cool is for the whole season to be played with no one knowing where they stand, then plug in the onfor into a computer and bam these teams go. It would eliminate all of the political stuff. The arguments wouldn't start until the teams have been picked. ESPN would be out if business.
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Re: How Will This Affect SOS In The Playoff Era?

Postby Derek » Thu Sep 20, 2012 10:16 pm

Spence wrote:What would be cool is for the whole season to be played with no one knowing where they stand, then plug in the onfor into a computer and bam these teams go. It would eliminate all of the political stuff. The arguments wouldn't start until the teams have been picked. ESPN would be out if business.


And that might be a good thing. :)
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