The failure of the BCS has absolutely to do with the voters. They have manipulated the poll vote several times in the BCS era to get a result. They have punished Boise State for winning after Boise State proved they were very good. I think they one that I will never quite get over is the in 2007 when they pushed Georgia out of the title game for LSU because they didn't when the conference and then a couple years ago put Alabama in even when they did not win their conference. That is the part that is broken.
I am not for a playoff, but if they have a playoff it should be a tournament of champions. Not a tournament of teams that 10 guys in a room decide to playoff.
Auburn Got Away With One . . .
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Re: Auburn Got Away With One . . .
"History doesn't always repeat itself but it often rhymes." - Mark Twain
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The only reasonable scenario, in football, is to go to what developed naturally; Conference champions, however the conferences want to choose, play in designated bowls. January 2nd, everybody can make their case who is the best in the land; punsters, pollsters and Monday morning quarterbacks. Makes great discussion and is entertaining. Football, because of the physicality of it does not lend itself to playoffs...too many dead weeks for some teams and extends the season way beyond common sense.
Money changes it all. So if you are going to have a playoff, let it go until mid-March and let all Division I conference winners be entered. If you don't want the Fresno's and the Northern Illinois, tell them to go to grass and form their own playoff. Playoffs work in lower divisions, by the way because the do not have 122 teams involved. Tell me what Boise State has in common with Florida State? They can't even agree on the color of turf. (Why does the South tout Blue Grass as the creme de le creme and when a school has blue grass the scoff...I digress.)
Money changes it all. So if you are going to have a playoff, let it go until mid-March and let all Division I conference winners be entered. If you don't want the Fresno's and the Northern Illinois, tell them to go to grass and form their own playoff. Playoffs work in lower divisions, by the way because the do not have 122 teams involved. Tell me what Boise State has in common with Florida State? They can't even agree on the color of turf. (Why does the South tout Blue Grass as the creme de le creme and when a school has blue grass the scoff...I digress.)
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donovan wrote:(Why does the South tout Blue Grass as the creme de le creme and when a school has blue grass the scoff...I digress.)


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Re: Auburn Got Away With One . . .
Ohio State did not decisively deal with Michigan...on a day where there seems little separattion between Alabama, Auburn, and Mizzou....
I still think that if Ohio State and FSU take care of business and finish undefeated...they will play for it...
I still think that if Ohio State and FSU take care of business and finish undefeated...they will play for it...
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Eric wrote:donovan wrote:(Why does the South tout Blue Grass as the creme de le creme and when a school has blue grass the scoff...I digress.)
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Too much poll manipulation going on.
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Re: Auburn Got Away With One . . .
donovan wrote:The only reasonable scenario, in football, is to go to what developed naturally; Conference champions, however the conferences want to choose, play in designated bowls. January 2nd, everybody can make their case who is the best in the land; punsters, pollsters and Monday morning quarterbacks. Makes great discussion and is entertaining. Football, because of the physicality of it does not lend itself to playoffs...too many dead weeks for some teams and extends the season way beyond common sense.
Money changes it all. So if you are going to have a playoff, let it go until mid-March and let all Division I conference winners be entered. If you don't want the Fresno's and the Northern Illinois, tell them to go to grass and form their own playoff. Playoffs work in lower divisions, by the way because the do not have 122 teams involved. Tell me what Boise State has in common with Florida State? They can't even agree on the color of turf. (Why does the South tout Blue Grass as the creme de le creme and when a school has blue grass the scoff...I digress.)
Blue grass isn't much south of Kentucky...we grow Centipede and St. Augustine in the secessionist south...some Bermuda and zoysia...
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And I am sure most Florida St fans are wanting Ohio St as their opponent. If Auburn beats Missouri they will have beaten, at least 5 top 15 teams. Ohio St has beaten 1. Of course much of this has to do with the relative strength of the conferences, which the teams cannot control.billybud wrote:Ohio State did not decisively deal with Michigan...on a day where there seems little separattion between Alabama, Auburn, and Mizzou....
I still think that if Ohio State and FSU take care of business and finish undefeated...they will play for it...
Next year, with these results the 4 Teams would probably be Florida St, vs Alabama and Ohio St vs Auburn.
Of course, that is assuming Ohio St beats Mich St and Auburn beats Missouri and these are not automatic wins.
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I only count two top 15 teams. They lost to LSU and beat A&M when they were #7, but A&M has since dropped to 8-4. Georgia was banged up and only ranked #25 at the time of their ranking.
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Re: Auburn Got Away With One . . .
billybud wrote:donovan wrote:The only reasonable scenario, in football, is to go to what developed naturally; Conference champions, however the conferences want to choose, play in designated bowls. January 2nd, everybody can make their case who is the best in the land; punsters, pollsters and Monday morning quarterbacks. Makes great discussion and is entertaining. Football, because of the physicality of it does not lend itself to playoffs...too many dead weeks for some teams and extends the season way beyond common sense.
Money changes it all. So if you are going to have a playoff, let it go until mid-March and let all Division I conference winners be entered. If you don't want the Fresno's and the Northern Illinois, tell them to go to grass and form their own playoff. Playoffs work in lower divisions, by the way because the do not have 122 teams involved. Tell me what Boise State has in common with Florida State? They can't even agree on the color of turf. (Why does the South tout Blue Grass as the creme de le creme and when a school has blue grass the scoff...I digress.)
Blue grass isn't much south of Kentucky...we grow Centipede and St. Augustine in the secessionist south...some Bermuda and zoysia...
St. Augustine is what we have here in Houston. It isn't as soft as the stuff I am used to in Oregon but it hardly takes any maintenance at all. What surprised me the most about this place when I first arrived is how green everything is. On the other hand, what you don't see a lot of here are flowers.
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The Willamette Valley, where both the U of Oregon and Oregon State University are located is the grass seed capitol of the world. 2/3 of all cool grass grass seed is raised in that county. Both Reser and Autzen stadium have Field Turf.....nothing is sacred.
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Houston has the same climate as Tallahassee...July and August can be almost unbearable with the heat/humidity combination and November/December are the best months followed by the spring.
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..fanatic wrote:Man, I'm gonna miss the BCS next year. There will be nothing to contribute to this kind of excitement and debate during the year - just 13 fools in a room at the end of the year to determine everyone's fate based on their own individual criteria. It's the dumbest thing to ever happen and I hope it's a complete disaster. If you're going to do a playoff, do it right. Shoulda kept the BCS and incorporate an 8-team field based on much of the same existing BCS criteria. First and second-round games on home campuses - title game at rotating BCS venue. This behind closed doors stuff is garbage.
I could not agree with this more.
They’re either going to run the ball here or their going to pass it.
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