Is Meyer changing his tune now that the shoe is on the other foot??
Let the SOS debate begin again.....
http://ftw.usatoday.com/2013/12/urban-meyer-ohio-state-bcs-championship-sec/
Spence??
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Spence??
What say you CFP?
Is Meyer changing his tune now that the shoe is on the other foot??
Let the SOS debate begin again.....
http://ftw.usatoday.com/2013/12/urban-meyer-ohio-state-bcs-championship-sec/
Is Meyer changing his tune now that the shoe is on the other foot??
Let the SOS debate begin again.....
http://ftw.usatoday.com/2013/12/urban-meyer-ohio-state-bcs-championship-sec/
They’re either going to run the ball here or their going to pass it.
The fewer rules a coach has, the fewer rules there are for players to break.
See, well ya see, the thing is, he should have caught that ball. But the ball is bigger than his hands.
- John Madden
The fewer rules a coach has, the fewer rules there are for players to break.
See, well ya see, the thing is, he should have caught that ball. But the ball is bigger than his hands.
- John Madden
Re: Spence??
Dan Shanoff, whoever he is, would flunk 8th grade logic and 5th grade writing unless the assignment was excelling in non-sequitur fiction. I have no opinion of Urban Meyer; he may be the greatest guy around or he may just be an Urban Meyer opportunist, but there is not one statement Urban Meyer made since 2006 when he had a dog in the fight, quoted in this article, though the headline and the insane reasoning of this hack tries to make you think there is. So on to the subject from the writer we do care about, Derek.
SOS is a manipulative tool, foisted on the American college football fan that makes us believe that, as Mr. Billybud says on several related and unrelated subjects..he remember, is a quasi-semi supporter of SOS, that the Emperor is wearing clothes. The Emperor has no clothes, he is buck naked, more nude than Tobias Fünke ever thought of being. However misguided Mr. Billybud is on this subject, his writings far exceed making a case for SOS than Mr. Shanoff's blog.
Want to "fix" the game, then do this. Have a large pool of contestants, seed them based on, well, make up the criteria you use because if it is really known, then you are quickly exposed. Like all illusionists, misdirect the audience's attention to the 100 contestants that have never or will never make it to the top. Use human polls like the Harris interactive poll comprised of...of...well you want to join, here is the link..http://www.harrispollonline.com..and then a poll of Coaches that no one believes have watched any of the games because why? Maybe they are working on the day the games are played. It is the middle of the third quarter, OSU is up by 2, Urban Meyer calls a time out...."get the Auburn Alabama game on TV, I have to vote tonight and I want to make sure I get my vote correct." Then use computer polls where they are "proprietary" so no one has a clue on what they are based. And lastly rank the SOS of every team based on ...on...on.. well whatever you want to secretly base it on and of course no two SOS rankings need to be anywhere close to each other.
And in the end, turn it over to a TV network that has more financial investment than Warren Buffet has in Berkshire-Hathaway.
Then when it finally runs it course, when not even the greed monsters can justify it any longer, turn it over to a bunch of 5th columnists forming a committee, the most intelligent probably being woman trying to run a University that has, or could have, a dog in the fight. (Who wins when a dog fights an alligator?...will check with Duck Dynasty and report later.)
And lastly, when the the same Bernie Maddoff run-like NCAA wants a true champion where no one cares and leaves it to those that do...just look at all the other divisions in football....they have it figured out and get it done in a timely manner...so why can't Division I....because the Emperor is naked, that's why.
Why not just play John Madden's college football video game and get it done over a weekend.
SOS is a manipulative tool, foisted on the American college football fan that makes us believe that, as Mr. Billybud says on several related and unrelated subjects..he remember, is a quasi-semi supporter of SOS, that the Emperor is wearing clothes. The Emperor has no clothes, he is buck naked, more nude than Tobias Fünke ever thought of being. However misguided Mr. Billybud is on this subject, his writings far exceed making a case for SOS than Mr. Shanoff's blog.
Want to "fix" the game, then do this. Have a large pool of contestants, seed them based on, well, make up the criteria you use because if it is really known, then you are quickly exposed. Like all illusionists, misdirect the audience's attention to the 100 contestants that have never or will never make it to the top. Use human polls like the Harris interactive poll comprised of...of...well you want to join, here is the link..http://www.harrispollonline.com..and then a poll of Coaches that no one believes have watched any of the games because why? Maybe they are working on the day the games are played. It is the middle of the third quarter, OSU is up by 2, Urban Meyer calls a time out...."get the Auburn Alabama game on TV, I have to vote tonight and I want to make sure I get my vote correct." Then use computer polls where they are "proprietary" so no one has a clue on what they are based. And lastly rank the SOS of every team based on ...on...on.. well whatever you want to secretly base it on and of course no two SOS rankings need to be anywhere close to each other.
And in the end, turn it over to a TV network that has more financial investment than Warren Buffet has in Berkshire-Hathaway.
Then when it finally runs it course, when not even the greed monsters can justify it any longer, turn it over to a bunch of 5th columnists forming a committee, the most intelligent probably being woman trying to run a University that has, or could have, a dog in the fight. (Who wins when a dog fights an alligator?...will check with Duck Dynasty and report later.)
And lastly, when the the same Bernie Maddoff run-like NCAA wants a true champion where no one cares and leaves it to those that do...just look at all the other divisions in football....they have it figured out and get it done in a timely manner...so why can't Division I....because the Emperor is naked, that's why.
Why not just play John Madden's college football video game and get it done over a weekend.
Statistics are the Morphine of College Football
Re: Spence??
All Urbie the Cryer has to do is win one more game....
Ohio State will play for it all if he does.
The talking heads pushing a one loss SEC team for the NC game are what is making him sputter. But really, that is ESPN's job. The more talk, the more controversy, the wider their accountants' smiles.
Yes...the truth is that Alabama would be #1 if not for a couple of miraculous game winning plays that put Auburn in the SEC CG. And that Alabama is the same football team that they were when they were #1.
But...like the little hashtag on the ESPN College Football promo says..."College Football..where every game counts". Not "College Football where every game counts*,
*unless you are in the SEC.
Ohio State will play for it all if he does.
The talking heads pushing a one loss SEC team for the NC game are what is making him sputter. But really, that is ESPN's job. The more talk, the more controversy, the wider their accountants' smiles.
Yes...the truth is that Alabama would be #1 if not for a couple of miraculous game winning plays that put Auburn in the SEC CG. And that Alabama is the same football team that they were when they were #1.
But...like the little hashtag on the ESPN College Football promo says..."College Football..where every game counts". Not "College Football where every game counts*,
*unless you are in the SEC.
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Re: Spence??
I guess Meyer is playing the politician. I don't speak for him, but I will tell you what I think.
As I said back then when Michigan was 2 and Ohio State was 1, two teams from the same conference shouldn't play for the national title. Especially if they have played during the season. I believed that then and I believed it when Bama and LSU played. That is wrong IMO.
About Ohio State this year, I think if they beat Michigan State, they should play for the title. If there were another undefeated from an AQ conference I wouldn't feel that way. I would feel like Ohio State should be left out because of schedule strength. I do think losses matter. Especially since we don't have and won't have a real playoff. I think I have been fairly consistent about that over the years.
I do think that Ohio State will get thumped by Florida State. We don't have the defense to be able to get past them. I really haven't seen a team this year that does, but Ohio State doesn't have much of a chance the way I see it. Michigan State might do us a favor and knock us out this week. They have a good enough defense to take Ohio State down. We will see.
If Ohio State gets in the championship and loses the B10 will take it on the chin again for years when the fact of the matter is that not many teams can hang with Florida State this year. I don't think Auburn or Mizzu would. Alabama could hang, but I don't think they win. Michigan State doesn't have the offense, Ohio State doesn't have the defense. Oregon doesn't have the defense. Stanford may have been able to make them sweat a little, but not beat them. No one in the B12 can hang with them. Unless Florida State comes out flat in the championship game, I don't think they are going to be beat by anyone.
That is as honest and objective as I can be about the situation. It is what I believe. I don't know how CFP feels about it, I only speak for me.
As I said back then when Michigan was 2 and Ohio State was 1, two teams from the same conference shouldn't play for the national title. Especially if they have played during the season. I believed that then and I believed it when Bama and LSU played. That is wrong IMO.
About Ohio State this year, I think if they beat Michigan State, they should play for the title. If there were another undefeated from an AQ conference I wouldn't feel that way. I would feel like Ohio State should be left out because of schedule strength. I do think losses matter. Especially since we don't have and won't have a real playoff. I think I have been fairly consistent about that over the years.
I do think that Ohio State will get thumped by Florida State. We don't have the defense to be able to get past them. I really haven't seen a team this year that does, but Ohio State doesn't have much of a chance the way I see it. Michigan State might do us a favor and knock us out this week. They have a good enough defense to take Ohio State down. We will see.
If Ohio State gets in the championship and loses the B10 will take it on the chin again for years when the fact of the matter is that not many teams can hang with Florida State this year. I don't think Auburn or Mizzu would. Alabama could hang, but I don't think they win. Michigan State doesn't have the offense, Ohio State doesn't have the defense. Oregon doesn't have the defense. Stanford may have been able to make them sweat a little, but not beat them. No one in the B12 can hang with them. Unless Florida State comes out flat in the championship game, I don't think they are going to be beat by anyone.
That is as honest and objective as I can be about the situation. It is what I believe. I don't know how CFP feels about it, I only speak for me.
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