X's and O's come later. So on to the ancillary thoughts. Florida is a long way from California, one might say, from sea to shinning sea. The ticket right now, cheapest on a quick search is a little over $1100. It will only get worse. Lodging is not cheap. All the normal attractions of going to Southern California have little appeal to people in Florida....they have the same. The big factor is, this is where FSU won the national championship last years and their fans may that made the trip last year, may be wanting to spend their money elsewhere, like at Best Buy on Samsung's 110-inch Ultra HDTV. So, even though they will sell their tickets, I am guessing mix will be lopsided, maybe not.
With a made for Hollywood script, this probably is as good as anyplace for this match up.
Florida State v. Oregon
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Florida State v. Oregon
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Re: Florida State v. Oregon
The adage that offense wins games and defense wins championships will never be more true than this game and both schools have outstanding defenses, even though they are not touted as much as the offenses. Where FSU may have some advantage is Winston seems to be the expert in adjusting as the game progresses. I think that is why he seems to get better as the game moves along. He sees what the defense is doing and then zigs when they zag.
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I think FSU will be ready to rock and roll for the first time this season. This will be the FSU team we've been waiting to see all year. It should be fun and I think it will be something of a shootout. The Noles defense isn't nearly as good as they were last year. But I don't think it'll be the first half zombified team we've been seeing all year.
Jameis does have to limit the interceptions. And on a side note, if you've thrown 17 interceptions this year, I don't think you should be invited to the Heisman ceremony, even as the defending winner.
Jameis does have to limit the interceptions. And on a side note, if you've thrown 17 interceptions this year, I don't think you should be invited to the Heisman ceremony, even as the defending winner.
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I agree it will be a shoot out. Haven't decided who I like in the game though.
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Vegas has FSU as a decided (+ 8,5) underdog to the Ducks.
It will be entertaining....While I do not expect FSU to win, unlike Arizona did, I do not expect the guys to just give in, They will go down with the decks awash and guns blazing while flying the Jolly Roger....they do not roll over.
It will be entertaining....While I do not expect FSU to win, unlike Arizona did, I do not expect the guys to just give in, They will go down with the decks awash and guns blazing while flying the Jolly Roger....they do not roll over.
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billybud wrote:Vegas has FSU as a decided (+ 8,5) underdog to the Ducks.
It will be entertaining....While I do not expect FSU to win, unlike Arizona did, I do not expect the guys to just give in, They will go down with the decks awash and guns blazing while flying the Jolly Roger....they do not roll over.
So you don't think FSU is gonna win this one?
I'm inclined to agree, if they play like they have this year in the first half. If the offensive monster shakes lose, they won't be able to catch them. If they are down by two at the half and have less than 21, I don't think they'll last the boxing match this game will turn into.
I'm excited to watch...much more so than Alabama and OSU.
They’re either going to run the ball here or their going to pass it.
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It's too bad Oregon was so good this season ... would have been ironic to watch them play in Shreveport, Louisiana ... The Duck Commander Independence Bowl.
Anyhow, this ought to be a decent game. Oregon is playing all out lately, and I'm not sure the `Noles are quite ready for that kind of match up.
FSU will be the best Defense Oregon has played all year.
Should be fun.
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Anyhow, this ought to be a decent game. Oregon is playing all out lately, and I'm not sure the `Noles are quite ready for that kind of match up.
FSU will be the best Defense Oregon has played all year.
Should be fun.
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"It is only impossible until it has been accomplished." ... then it becomes standardized ...
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I'm worried about Florida State's front seven. If it was offense against offense, i pick Florida State.
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I wish I was a Duck fan...but Mr. Billybud will have his team ready. I suspect if both teams play their very best, the QB position is a wash, the receivers are a wash and so we are down to the linesmen. It will be won or lost in the trenches. I would not be surprised if the score was 66 to 64.
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Oregon now -9.5 over FSU....
I think that this is a tough match up for the Noles...the DB's have been spotty all year. A mobile QB, fast receivers, and a spotty defensive backfield make for an ugly game for the Noles.
...Oregon won't run much North-South on FSU but can sweep the edges.
-----I expect FSU to change scheme/personnel. They have a 300 pound DE that won't be able to seal the edge against speed. He also has had to cover receivers 20 yards downfield in some blitz schemes (a mismatch made in heaven for a passing team). Mario does a decent job in coverage, but a 300 pounder is a 300 pounder. I see a LB on the DE.
...FSU will not use a vintage rush the passer with your hair on fire scheme...the front four will try to contain while closing the pocket. I expect some dangerous scheming where very little pad will be given at times....my thought is that getting physical with Oregon receivers is too dangerous to implement.
...Mariota is fast, but not as fast as Thomas (GT quarterback). FSU started putting a spy on Thomas in the 3rd quarter to limit his damage.
...FSU beat GT because they had no turnovers in the game...it will take a zero turnover game to stay close to the Ducks.
I think that this is a tough match up for the Noles...the DB's have been spotty all year. A mobile QB, fast receivers, and a spotty defensive backfield make for an ugly game for the Noles.
...Oregon won't run much North-South on FSU but can sweep the edges.
-----I expect FSU to change scheme/personnel. They have a 300 pound DE that won't be able to seal the edge against speed. He also has had to cover receivers 20 yards downfield in some blitz schemes (a mismatch made in heaven for a passing team). Mario does a decent job in coverage, but a 300 pounder is a 300 pounder. I see a LB on the DE.
...FSU will not use a vintage rush the passer with your hair on fire scheme...the front four will try to contain while closing the pocket. I expect some dangerous scheming where very little pad will be given at times....my thought is that getting physical with Oregon receivers is too dangerous to implement.
...Mariota is fast, but not as fast as Thomas (GT quarterback). FSU started putting a spy on Thomas in the 3rd quarter to limit his damage.
...FSU beat GT because they had no turnovers in the game...it will take a zero turnover game to stay close to the Ducks.
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The Ducks to not play as quickly now as they did under Kelly. I think that is reasonable. This game may well be about during the game adjustments as to what the other side is doing. Hard to find anyone that does better than FSU. I think that is why all the comebacks, they see what is happening and adjust right up to the last play.
FSU has the special teams edge...that could be huge.
As for the odd...when the East Coast money starts rolling in it will tighten right up.
FSU has the special teams edge...that could be huge.
As for the odd...when the East Coast money starts rolling in it will tighten right up.
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I do not think the line tightens much. FSU has figured out a way to not beat the spread almost every game and has come from behind in nine of the last eleven games.
They have been a gambler's nightmare if that gambler put money on the Noles.
Some folks have the misconception that Oregon is a "finesse" team. Their O line are physical 300 pounders and the defense plays physical football. The battle in the trenches will be an even match and FSU may be the toughest line that Oregon has faced...and probably vice versa.
Mariota will be the best QB that FSU has faced and will be a handful. FSU's scheme eschews going for sacks (at the expense of containment at the line) but must be able to provide some pressure on Mariota. Give him 7 seconds and he will find someone.
For FSU, as always, it will come down to how Winston throws the ball...no INT's and FSU can stay in the game...I do hope that Jimbo loosens up his play calling and goes more long ball to back off the defenders. Jimbo's scheme leans heavily on short to intermediate passing (like the Ducks)...
And, the mystery to me all season is how a lumbering tight end like Nick Oleary is so difficult to cover. I think the Ducks will have that one figured out and that Jameis will need to go to alternate receivers more.
They have been a gambler's nightmare if that gambler put money on the Noles.
Some folks have the misconception that Oregon is a "finesse" team. Their O line are physical 300 pounders and the defense plays physical football. The battle in the trenches will be an even match and FSU may be the toughest line that Oregon has faced...and probably vice versa.
Mariota will be the best QB that FSU has faced and will be a handful. FSU's scheme eschews going for sacks (at the expense of containment at the line) but must be able to provide some pressure on Mariota. Give him 7 seconds and he will find someone.
For FSU, as always, it will come down to how Winston throws the ball...no INT's and FSU can stay in the game...I do hope that Jimbo loosens up his play calling and goes more long ball to back off the defenders. Jimbo's scheme leans heavily on short to intermediate passing (like the Ducks)...
And, the mystery to me all season is how a lumbering tight end like Nick Oleary is so difficult to cover. I think the Ducks will have that one figured out and that Jameis will need to go to alternate receivers more.
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Re: Florida State v. Oregon
I think it has to do with who is covering O'leary.
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Re: Florida State v. Oregon
This is a good match up. I don't disagree with these analyses. As I have said, it will be won or lost in the trenches. I have never seem them as a finesse team, they are opportunist and play to the other teams weakness and their strengths. I do not have a feeling who will be the victor. One thing that will cause suspense, is I think both teams are in excellent physical condition. They play all 60 minutes. In many of the Ducks games, that has made the difference. The Ducks rotate in and out and not even the announcers keep up with them. I think FSU does the same. Fresh legs can not be over rated. I would see these teams as evenly matched. They are both well coached.
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Re: Florida State v. Oregon
Mariotta just won the Heisman.
FYI....Don't pick Oregon now.
That trophy is a curse!
FYI....Don't pick Oregon now.
That trophy is a curse!
They’re either going to run the ball here or their going to pass it.
The fewer rules a coach has, the fewer rules there are for players to break.
See, well ya see, the thing is, he should have caught that ball. But the ball is bigger than his hands.
- John Madden
The fewer rules a coach has, the fewer rules there are for players to break.
See, well ya see, the thing is, he should have caught that ball. But the ball is bigger than his hands.
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