Alarms Going Off Everywhere…. Even In Alabama

[Mountainman]

……….. I cannot help but wonder why Saban would even bother to say anything, when everyone already knows that College Football has become the NFL Lite with paying players, signing bonuses, and free agency.


https://www.cbssports.com/college-footb ... heir-team/



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[Cane from the Bend]

I cannot help but wonder why Saban would even bother to say anything, when everyone already knows that College Football has become the NFL Lite with paying players, signing bonuses, and free agency.

It's simple; he didn't say it, really ...

This was blown way out of context by the media.

It's a slow time for College Football, so any news becomes a Storm Siren.

Saban didn't say this at a media event. He said it during a Boosters Association gathering. His aim was rather obvious.

The Elephant fund cannot compete with the amount of $$$ programs such as A&M, Texas and USC are doling out for recruits.

So, he said it, hoping to trigger an influx of donor revenue, to prevent the other guys from catching up.

What Saban didn't know, is that this gathering was being Broadcast on the Internet, which immediately leaked everywhere.

The media acted as though Saban was putting out for the world to see. And then put their own spin on it.

Jimbo, however, was classless as all get out in his response.

He kept standing on the; "He's talking about 17 year olds and their families." -- virtue.

He also said that he never lies, and then went on to lie, accusing Saban of saying that A&M had broken the law. Which Saban said plainly, nobody is breaking the law.

Watch Saban's actual addressing of this, and keep in mind he thinks, only the people in the room are listening:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oxZKXBvbOI

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[Mountainman]

Here’s what I consider a good take on the current landscape and a broad perspective on College Football, and where this is going to lead along with the hurdles and possible/probable consequences of going down this path………. it’s a lengthy article, but well worth the read to help bring things into focus.

https://www.outkick.com/college-footbal ... os-ensues/


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[Mountainman]

Hey Cane…….. great post!!!!!

Do us a favor if you would, and post Jimbo’s rebuttal to what Saban had to say.



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[Cane from the Bend]

Hey Cane…….. great post!!!!!

Do us a favor if you would, and post Jimbo’s rebuttal to what Saban had to say.



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Ah, yes ... I do have that, too:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CxAdLv0UpY&t=336s

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[Mountainman]

Thanks Cane……… my take from those two videos is one is about situational truth while the other is about situational exploitation.


btw…… it’s a great example of an earlier post you made about the value of ‘truth’versus the value of the ‘whole truth’.



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[Cane from the Bend]

Thanks Cane……… my take from those two videos is one is about situational truth while the other is about situational exploitation.


btw…… it’s a great example of an earlier post you made about the value of ‘truth’versus the value of the ‘whole truth’.

I sometimes have my moments ...

I felt the same way as you regarding these videos.

Saban was purely lobbying what he could from the Boosters and Alumni Association, to campaign for more money so that he could keep up with the Joneses. Looking into the future, he can see that Alabama is not going to have the annual allotment of $30 million set aside in a Players Fund like A&M and Texas will have.

But it got out, and the media played their angle. Claiming Saban was taking shots at these other schools / coaches.

For the media; Controversy Sells!

Any time they can manufacture a rivalry or contentious circumstance, they are going to exploit the Bajeezus outta it.

Jimbo chose to play it low rent. He came out to play the victim, hoping to look like the little guy being bullied by the schoolyard deviant.

Gimme your Lunch money, Boy!

I think Saban made a mistake, coming out and apologizing for his comments.

Jimbo shoved his foot on his mouth, when he claimed that he doesn't lie, and that he doesn't cheat.

Proving someone cheated is tough; but he is pandering to the people who knows that cheating goes on. And especially such, at the highest level of football.

He also made a mistake, telling people to look into Saban's past, and ask around. What do you suppose we'd find if we did the same of Jimbo?

When asked about why he felt it was important to come out in defense of his players, Jimbo literally said: "I'm not defending anyone."

That can be used against you.

Fisher would have been best served to have come out to tell us: "Yeah, some people have to say certain thing for it to make sense to themselves. He needed an excuse to explain why hes not #1 at something, and he imagined this up. I might have said the same thing if I had to answer to my Booster's club why I was behind. Fortunately for us, we were #1 in recruiting. So I don't have to make believe a reason."

Instead, he put on a show, mustering up an emotional response to contrite a charade which really leaves us all with more vested questions than resolution.

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[Cane from the Bend]

Thanks Cane……… my take from those two videos is one is about situational truth while the other is about situational exploitation. .

Here's another vid voicing similar sentiments:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uq9XOqLtEzY


This one I found interesting, as it is coming directly from someone who actually dealt with this sort of thing, from a recruiters perspective.

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[Cane from the Bend]

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Yes!

Now we can have fun with it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6DMS2wEPvw

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[Mountainman]

What I’ve been waiting for was for Lane Kiffen and Mike Leach to share their thoughts on this kerfuffle, but I heard that Greg Sankey gave them both a call and told them to zip it…………. But somehow I just knew Spurrier would chime in……..


https://www.cbssports.com/college-footb ... -any-lies/



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[Mountainman]

………..if you read closely and pay attention, you’ll read exactly why the NCAA has failed soooooo miserably. “We have met the enemy and he is us.”



https://www.si.com/college/2022/05/20/n ... ntouchable



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[Derek]

Jimbo, however, was classless as all get out in his response.

He kept standing on the; "He's talking about 17 year olds and their families." -- virtue.

He also said that he never lies, and then went on to lie, accusing Saban of saying that A&M had broken the law. Which Saban said plainly, nobody is breaking the law.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels this way. Perfect example of lacking class

[Mountainman]

Kiffin speaks……..

https://www.si.com/college/2022/05/25/l ... nick-saban



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[Cane from the Bend]

Kiffin speaks……..

https://www.si.com/college/2022/05/25/l ... nick-saban.

Lane Kiffin: It’s totally changed recruiting. I joke all the time about it. Facilities and all that. Go ahead and build facilities and these great weight rooms and training rooms, but you ain’t gonna have any good players in them if you don’t have NIL money. I don’t care who the coach is or how hard you recruit, that is not going to win over money.

Which is ironic timing ...

We've seen the Upgrades Memphis and Boise are building; Miami announced a $100 million Practice Facilities renovations.

And, Miami is one of those programs being propped up by NIL contracts.

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[Cane from the Bend]

Kiffin speaks……..

https://www.si.com/college/2022/05/25/l ... nick-saban

SI: When you were head coach at the Raiders, you and then owner Al Davis became embroiled in a public fight over the playing time of No. 1 draft pick JaMarcus Russell. Do you see that starting to play out in college?

Lane Kiffin: How is that not going to be an issue—that the donor pays the money for the player, and you’re not playing them and that same donor gets you hired and fired. That donor is now what? The owner.

I’ve been there, where the owner calls and says, ‘We need to play this guy!’ And I say, ‘No, we need to play this other guy.’ I’ll tell you what happens—you get fired. You get fired on an overhead projector. What’s going to happen when the lead donor calls and says to play this guy, and you don’t—do you not get fired?

Pretty sure we've all been seeing this play out at Texas for the last 2 decades.

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