ASU:Dirtiest Team In College Football This Year

[RazorHawk]

Last night an Arkansas player tore Justin Britt's helmet off and threw it at him, hitting him in the eye. Worse offense in my opinion...

That incident by Mitchell was horrible. No place for that in sports. I hope the SEC levies a longer suspension than 1 game for being ejected. Apparently, the penalty was the second half of the Bama game and the first half of this week's Kentucky game. If I am Houston Nutt, he would miss the entire Kentucky game and possibly a couple of more games. However, when a player arrested for possession of illegal drugs misses only one game, I don't see this happening.

[BYUfan1]

The point is, Alabama is a target. Boise is not. I didn't mean nobody cares about Boise, just that they wouldn't make some huge deal out of it. For instance, would it be a bigger deal to say Bobby Bowden did something, or the coach at San Jose St?

Hey, Dick Tomey may not have as many wins as Bobby Bowden, but he has his own legacy. He still has the most wins in Arizona history. He left Hawaii as the winningest coach in school history, but June Jones has since past him. I might be wrong, but I think San Jose State won more games than Florida State did last year.

[donovan]

The point is, Alabama is a target. Boise is not. I didn't mean nobody cares about Boise, just that they wouldn't make some huge deal out of it. For instance, would it be a bigger deal to say Bobby Bowden did something, or the coach at San Jose St?

Well your point may be well taken on the sports blogs and media....but the answer is...it makes no difference...dishonesty, immorality, cheating, encouraging and rasputinic behavior is wrong. One could say..yes but we are just talking football and coaches and big name schools and media reporting...Don't buy into that. These attitudes affect our childrens lives. You have to take a stand...I know you do...I just say we can not buy into letting the media dictate our morals. So in esscence...yes Bowden gets the broad brush of print and San Jose gets not much....but the young men affected are of equal value.



Hey, Dick Tomey may not have as many wins as Bobby Bowden, and he has his own legacy. He still has the most wins in Arizona history. He left Hawaii as the winningest coach in school history, but June Jones has since past him. I might be wrong, but I think San Jose State won more games than Florida State did last year.

[donovan]

The point is, Alabama is a target. Boise is not. I didn't mean nobody cares about Boise, just that they wouldn't make some huge deal out of it. For instance, would it be a bigger deal to say Bobby Bowden did something, or the coach at San Jose St?

Shouldn't you bring up Woody punching a Clemson player on the sideline? That is directly Woody. But I guess Bryant is responsible for his own actions and every player he ever coached. I guess that one incident is enough to call Alabama a dirty program and Bryant a dirty coach.

Ironic that you are always saying first the vedict, then the trial.

I would apologize for picking your university as an example......

PS....Actually my real belief on this subject of sportsmanship....honesty..etc.....is that is has little to do with the Coach..it is the AD and the School President. Coaches in the heat of battle can not always do what is right....AD's and Presidents need to be the moral compass of the school and when issues are persistent...the problem lies at the feet of the President....and every college President is very close to its sports program...maybe not the chemistry department...but sports...absolutely....

[billybud]

I remember the Bama incident...the clip was shown over and over...it was not an accident, it was a thrown forearm to the face of a guy who had pulled up at the end of a play and wasn't watching for a hit.

It was vicious and sports fans/sports media were in a frenzy because of the cheap shot and the seriuosness of the injury.

[Derek]

I love the fact that they ejected that guy from Ark for punching another player.

Stuff like this HAS to stop. If I was an NCAA official. He would be thrown off the team.

THIS CANNOT be allowed to continue. What kind of example is this?? What can you possibly say to excuse such behavior.

Our parents and grandparents didn't behave this way on the gridiron and we should not tolerate it EITHER!!

[RazorHawk]

I love the fact that they ejected that guy from Ark for punching another player.

Stuff like this HAS to stop. If I was an NCAA official. He would be thrown off the team.

THIS CANNOT be allowed to continue. What kind of example is this?? What can you possibly say to excuse such behavior.

Our parents and grandparents didn't behave this way on the gridiron and we should not tolerate it EITHER!!

I agree that it was a horrible incident. I believe the NCAA penalty is a one game suspension, but Arkansas has extended it to 1.5 games. I probably would have made it 2 or 3 games had I been the coach. If you were to throw players off the team, for this Miami and Florida International may not have had enough players to finish the season last year, with their fight. Unfortunately, many players on Div I teams border on being thugs.

[donovan]

....a lot of this has to do with recruiting.....if an individual is a thug off the field, then there is no reason to believe he will not be one on the field. As soon as schools start recruiting with some criteria...and many do..that includes character instead of "bigger, faster and stronger"...a lot of this..not all will go away.....

A good example..Stanford...they do not lower their entrance requirement one iota for athlete's admission. So..sometimes ou have to live with what you get...but look what difference a coach makes....they have won one...have a good defense interior line and I think, will win some games...at least they have done better so far...that UCLA game was close at half and was by far better than anything they did last year. Point is..leadership does make a difference.

In general...we need to get rid of the entitlement mentality that permeates our society.

[Derek]

Exactly.

[donovan]

Our parents and grandparents didn't behave this way on the gridiron and we should not tolerate it EITHER!!

i dont know about that...my grandfather used to tell me about how they would slam opponenets faces into their wooden thigh pads, and bust up each otehrs faces pretty good. the only reason it was not flagged, is beacuse it was not illegal. they played very dirty back in those days. but that was a tougher, less pc, generation.

sometimes you just have to leave a conversation and shake your head.......