I've got a crush on Sarah Palin

[Eric]

I guess my biggest problem with this is that most of the Obama campaign is a big scam. He's a non-partisan guy going to change Washington. Of course, he is

Why do people become so invested in single politicians? I don't get it. You'll hardly ever walk away satisfied, unless you're a partisan. If you didn't know any better, the 90's were the best decade in American history under Bill Clinton. The media often portrays that when the Clinton administration wasn't without its gaffes.

Which brings me to my next point speaking of partisans, I'd have to say Hannity and Colmes is about the worst show on television these days. Just awful banter and neither side never gives in and makes outrageous claims. I hate that show

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[Spence]

They are examples of the big problem with our system today. The system only works if two sides find common ground for the common good. No one cares about the common good. They only care how much money they can funnel out of one guys pocket and into another guys pocket.

[Eric]

I think that's the main issue with the government right now as well. Too many incompetent and greedy people are put into positions of power. It won't fix itself unless the people wake up and re-take control of their government. All I'm looking for from my government is one that protects me from foreign threats, one that manages the economy well enough, and one that looks out for the consumer protecting us from bad people with money. I guess the count is 1-2

[Spence]

That is why we need to quit voting for people we don't believe should hold the office just because they are the lesser of two evils. We need for people to becomed focused on how bad some ideas actually are and that we will only elect good people no matter which party we happen to belong. In other words, the inmates need to run the asylum for a while. Yes, it will be bad and yes it will take a long time to recover from, but we are digging a huge hole from which the country may never recover from by electing incompetents from both parties rather then demand good people. Having a guy like Obama be president is going to hurt small business because of what he wants do to us. But unless we let these liberals prove to everyone how destructive their policies and beliefs are it isn't going to get better. Voting for "conservatives" that are not capable of leading the country down the right path isn't helping the cause. We should get someone we can feel comfortable getting behind or let the party keep looking for the right people. We should not except mediocrity. It doesn't help.

[Derek]

I believe we could be on a good path to solving ALL our problems by doing a few things..

#1 Fair Tax
#2 Remove the popular election of Senators (Basically repeal the XVII Amendment) This is the way the founding fathers intended it.
#3 Repeal the 12th amendment and stop voting for the President since the poeple do not elect the President anyway...So WHY do we vote??

These will not happen, but NOTHING is going to change until we get back to what the founding fathers intended for this country to be, A Republic.

#1 will take care of the "Political weapon" our tax code has become.

#2 and #3 will stop our politicians from promising the moon and stars

“A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship.”

We HAVE to change the tax code, or NOTHING will happen.

[Spence]

We elect the delegates that elect the president. That is how it was intented.

[Eric]

I don't really have a problem with the senator elections. The idea back then was that the populus was too inept to seriously elect candidates to the upper house so the people who actually knew what they were talking about, the delegates, would vote them in. I think it's a good thing that the people directly elect the senators or else you get a group that doesn't have to be held responsible for anything.

[Spence]

I don't really have a problem with the senator elections. The idea back then was that the populus was too inept to seriously elect candidates to the upper house so the people who actually knew what they were talking about, the delegates, would vote them in. I think it's a good thing that the people directly elect the senators or else you get a group that doesn't have to be held responsible for anything.

Not sure things have changed that much. The majority of the electorate thinks voting for president is like voting for the American Idol.

[Derek]

I don't like voting for the Senators...the idea was brilliant in my opinion..You voted for the House of Reps every two years, but the Senators were only elected every 6 and EACH state had equal standing with the other, no matter the population.

I think they were right in their consensus that the public is too short sighted, not inept, to vote for the long term interest of the country. Which sometimes means making tough decisions that are not comfortable for the time being.

[Eric]

I think they were right in their consensus that the public is too short sighted, not inept, to vote for the long term interest of the country. Which sometimes means making tough decisions that are not comfortable for the time being.

So.......Appointed politicians would be better?

Even if the populous makes zany decisions (like voting for Pelosi or Reid or Dodd or Frank), I think people should at least have the right to vote. Something bothers me about basically having a bureaucratic wing of government standing on equal footing with elected representatives, but maybe I'm just cynical. I know that with the Supreme Court, the founding fathers made it so that they wouldn't be swayed by factions of voters and that they would interpret the constitution without the political ramifications.

[donovan]

I think that anyone that does not think like I do should loose their franchise to vote.

I think that anyone that thinks like I do should also be banned from voting.

[Spence]

I think that anyone that does not think like I do should loose their franchise to vote.

I think that anyone that thinks like I do should also be banned from voting.

My view on voting has always been I think people should know who they are voting for and vote for the person you believe will do a good job. As long as it is an informed vote, it doesn't matter to me. The problem is that too many people listen to sound bites and op-eds by the all knowing journalists. Kind of like top 25 voting only with lots more at stake. Too many people don't pay attention to what is going on and more importantly why it is going on. Being informed is easier then it has ever been and not many people care to get informed unless it directly affects them.

[Derek]

Your correct Spence....and which is why I still behind the notion that we should not elect the President, and I mean even voting. The whole thing is a mistake. The state legislators should vote for the electors.

Sorry, I am not an elitist, I just think the position is too important to be decided by the fickle public. The public gets to elect their state politicians and the HOuse of Reps...no one else.

The same with the Supreme Court, we do not elect them or have a say in who's on it. I am a Federalist.

[Spence]

I think the problem with the federalist way is I have met some of my legislators and I really don't want them voting for me.

[Derek]

I think the problem with the federalist way is I have met some of my legislators and I really don't want them voting for me.

true.