The Ten Commandments

[WoVeU]

The History Channel is running "The Ten Commandments" again. This is a scholarly and historical review of the 10 Commandments as scribed by Moses. I thought this was a show they really got right! Giving the in place, societal view of these works...that is much to all of the intent of the commandments. I do not care for the "Who Was Jesus" type shows where they attempt to use a societal scope to define and say who Jesus was and imply, assume, or invoke political reasoning to Christ and other ascriptions mounted...but this type of approach works better on topics like this. This show I like.

I particularly like how it lays out taking the Lord thy God's name in vain, and addresses profanity, and swearing properly!

[Dossenator]

I will have to watch.

[donovan]

I think it is especially important to obey the commandments that are prime numbers.... Well....they other ones, too.

[WoVeU]

I think it is especially important to obey the commandments that are prime numbers.... Well....they other ones, too.

I had to look, but yeah, you could say the prime numbers are most important. Depending on who's numbering system you go by a little bit...but 1, 2, and 3 always grabs the big ones! Then may grab the Sabbath as well.

[Derek]

The History Channel is running "The Ten Commandments" again. This is a scholarly and historical review of the 10 Commandments as scribed by Moses. I thought this was a show they really got right! Giving the in place, societal view of these works...that is much to all of the intent of the commandments. I do not care for the "Who Was Jesus" type shows where they attempt to use a societal scope to define and say who Jesus was and imply, assume, or invoke political reasoning to Christ and other ascriptions mounted...but this type of approach works better on topics like this. This show I like.

I particularly like how it lays out taking the Lord thy God's name in vain, and addresses profanity, and swearing properly!

Agreed. I have not seen this one...but I have seen others on such figures as Jesus...and find it to be utter drivel, with NO interest in what I believe Jesus was about. And even attempting in a back door sort of way, to undermine the Bible. Just my 2 cents.

[WoVeU]

The History Channel is running "The Ten Commandments" again. This is a scholarly and historical review of the 10 Commandments as scribed by Moses. I thought this was a show they really got right! Giving the in place, societal view of these works...that is much to all of the intent of the commandments. I do not care for the "Who Was Jesus" type shows where they attempt to use a societal scope to define and say who Jesus was and imply, assume, or invoke political reasoning to Christ and other ascriptions mounted...but this type of approach works better on topics like this. This show I like.

I particularly like how it lays out taking the Lord thy God's name in vain, and addresses profanity, and swearing properly!

Agreed. I have not seen this one...but I have seen others on such figures as Jesus...and find it to be utter drivel, with NO interest in what I believe Jesus was about. And even attempting in a back door sort of way, to undermine the Bible. Just my 2 cents.

I got 10 cents behind your 2...I am all but sure it is an attempt to undermine! We are seeing all kinds of seeds being broadcast now-a-days! I can smell a heathen a mile a way, even if it is just the remnant stench of a goal and hope laying around!!

[billybud]

I can smell a heathen a mile a way, even if it is just the remnant stench of a goal and hope laying around!!

Well....I'm glad you have a "nose" for heathens. I certainly must be a heathen and hope the stench doesn't waft through your monitor.

I don't think we would like each other. I can speak from my end and say that folks that say those kind of things are usually bigots of the worst order. The Nazi's had a "nose" for jews. You know, those folks always trying to undermine Christianity. Their refined "nose" led to the burning of books not considered suitable and art that didn't meet the party guidelines, and finally, the elimination of those heathens.

Kristallnacht wasn't that long ago.

I am with the Isreali's on this. "Never Again". Religious fanatics give me the shivers and have brought out the worst in humanity... we ever need to be on guard to never again allow religious bigots and government to come together to suppress those they deem to be heathen.

[WoVeU]

I can smell a heathen a mile a way, even if it is just the remnant stench of a goal and hope laying around!!

Well....I'm glad you have a "nose" for heathens. I certainly must be a heathen and hope the stench doesn't waft through your monitor.

I don't think we would like each other. I can speak from my end and say that folks that say those kind of things are usually bigots of the worst order. The Nazi's had a "nose" for jews. You know, those folks always trying to undermine Christianity. Their refined "nose" led to the burning of books not considered suitable and art that didn't meet the party guidelines, and finally, the elimination of those heathens.

Kristallnacht wasn't that long ago.

I am with the Isreali's on this. "Never Again". Religious fanatics give me the shivers and have brought out the worst in humanity... we ever need to be on guard to never again allow religious bigots and government to come together to suppress those they deem to be heathen.

A couple of definitions of heathen:
a person who does not acknowledge your god
not acknowledging the God of Christianity and Judaism and Islam

In my life thus far, I get along with everybody and like pretty much everyone, across all races, nationalities, and a few religions. Of those I often seem to like white (whatever that is) flag-flying Christians the least.

I don't make documentaries titled, "Who was Buddha?" or "Who was Muhammad?" or "Who was Manabozho?" I am not qualified to write, produce, or direct these. Even if I studied for years in depth in and on the subject I really wouldn't be qualified. Especially to do so with the angle of..."Who X really was" while meaning "Let I reverse engineer some slim to rather plausible conjured secular substitute explanation!"

Not hating, just stating!

[Derek]

I can smell a heathen a mile a way, even if it is just the remnant stench of a goal and hope laying around!!

Well....I'm glad you have a "nose" for heathens. I certainly must be a heathen and hope the stench doesn't waft through your monitor.

I don't think we would like each other. I can speak from my end and say that folks that say those kind of things are usually bigots of the worst order. The Nazi's had a "nose" for jews. You know, those folks always trying to undermine Christianity. Their refined "nose" led to the burning of books not considered suitable and art that didn't meet the party guidelines, and finally, the elimination of those heathens.

Kristallnacht wasn't that long ago.

I am with the Isreali's on this. "Never Again". Religious fanatics give me the shivers and have brought out the worst in humanity... we ever need to be on guard to never again allow religious bigots and government to come together to suppress those they deem to be heathen.

A couple of definitions of heathen:
a person who does not acknowledge your god
not acknowledging the God of Christianity and Judaism and Islam

In my life thus far, I get along with everybody and like pretty much everyone, across all races, nationalities, and a few religions. Of those I often seem to like white (whatever that is) flag-flying Christians the least.

I don't make documentaries titled, "Who was Buddha?" or "Who was Muhammad?" or "Who was Manabozho?" I am not qualified to write, produce, or direct these. Even if I studied for years in depth in and on the subject I really wouldn't be qualified. Especially to do so with the angle of..."Who X really was" while meaning "Let I reverse engineer some slim to rather plausible conjured secular substitute explanation!"

Not hating, just stating!

Welll said!

[billybud]

Pooh!

Talking of others as "heathens" is just an extension of tribalism. From time immemorial, men have worshipped different gods. And, if you didn't worship the same god, well, you were a "heathen". And most times, on the list for tribal slaughter (even god supported "cleansing".

As I have stated, your faith is an accident of geography. No more, no less. In fact, had the battle of Lepanto gone the other way, if your ancestors came from anywhere south of Hungary, you would not be a christian today. The whole of the northern mediterranean, at the least, would have been islamic.

I am Hutu, you are Tutsi. Tutsi bad. Break out the machetes. A million die. Tribalism at it's worst, you might say. Nazi's just had better equipment, it is all the same.


As you may be aware, I have been working intensely to follow up on genealogy. Particularly that of my farther's family. The area of what is now western Poland (Prussia when my GG grandfather immigrated) was sanitized by world events from 1900-1950. As far as I can tell, there is no living relation.

I have been immersed in history, and it is sad. Tribalism leading to distrust, leading to the destruction of people and families.

[donovan]

If we define, in this case, faith as religion, which I think we are...any faith or religion that believes in a God, ...and this is my opinion....no matter how they define God, there must be a consideration as to how what Billybud says is handled. I absolutely agree with Mr. Billybud that this is how most of us got to believe what we do, obviously there are individual exceptions. If God is the creator of us all, then I think religion needs to explain how the Creator will handle all of these beliefs, where many never heard of anything other than what their geography taught. If you take the history of the world....I would guess 99 44/100% have never heard of anything other than what the local geography espoused.

[Spence]

If we define, in this case, faith as religion, which I think we are...any faith or religion that believes in a God, ...and this is my opinion....no matter how they define God, there must be a consideration as to how what Billybud says is handled. I absolutely agree with Mr. Billybud that this is how most of us got to believe what we do, obviously there are individual exceptions. If God is the creator of us all, then I think religion needs to explain how the Creator will handle all of these beliefs, where many never heard of anything other than what their geography taught. If you take the history of the world....I would guess 99 44/100% have never heard of anything other than what the local geography espoused.

I think that is exactly right. Religion, or the practice of serving a God, is largely geographical. I have always believed that THE God has many faces for many people. I don't buy that the god of all people would turn away a person of faith just because the religion he practiced was different. The basic philosophy of most religions are basically the same. Most people on this earth follow the same God, it is the practice of serving him that differs.

[WoVeU]

Well I always start from the oldest school I can find for my insight and interpretation into Christianity. Somewhere in there you'd get to Christ being the way, the truth, and the light. Most take this as being the ONLY way. I have felt for a long time this can not be quite correct, at least in first order! (I won't side track into that.) But one of the first examples that made me wonder a whole lot on "ONLY" was Native Americans. From my witness, it seemed to me as a whole they seemed to be the most spiritual and practiced the most basic goodness. I thought they did the best at practicing what they preached. It wan't just a religion to them it was part of the true fabric of their culture and life. I can say, I don't think in the end of all ends these people could stand in front of the White Throne and not present themselves well.

I guess I forget that in forums people don't know my terminology, vernacular, and intent real well. I don't consider Native Americans or any tribal people (globally) to be heathen. I generally reserve that term for the fly in your face, do what the Hell I want Atheists and people who deem themselves self-gods. And I haven't met a top tier Atheist who I really didn't later find to be a self-godder!

And I am pretty sure I would like Mr. Billybud. I like people who can think for themselves, who like to think, ponder, and consider. Value what grand dad and dad handed down to them...and then pull it out with all of their other findings in life and check for accuracy and completeness once in a while.

[Derek]

Pooh!

Talking of others as "heathens" is just an extension of tribalism. From time immemorial, men have worshipped different gods. And, if you didn't worship the same god, well, you were a "heathen". And most times, on the list for tribal slaughter (even god supported "cleansing".

As I have stated, your faith is an accident of geography. No more, no less. In fact, had the battle of Lepanto gone the other way, if your ancestors came from anywhere south of Hungary, you would not be a christian today. The whole of the northern mediterranean, at the least, would have been islamic.

I am Hutu, you are Tutsi. Tutsi bad. Break out the machetes. A million die. Tribalism at it's worst, you might say. Nazi's just had better equipment, it is all the same.


As you may be aware, I have been working intensely to follow up on genealogy. Particularly that of my farther's family. The area of what is now western Poland (Prussia when my GG grandfather immigrated) was sanitized by world events from 1900-1950. As far as I can tell, there is no living relation.

I have been immersed in history, and it is sad. Tribalism leading to distrust, leading to the destruction of people and families.

Did you just compare Christians to nazi's? Killing those that don't believe the way they do??

[billybud]

You bet!

In a qualified sense. but yes...christians have a sordid history of killing nad persecuting folks who do not share their beliefs, including other christians.