2500 Days

[Spence]

Ohio State fans and Michigan fans will move on from this rivalry in the future, because it doesn't mean anything anymore. Not after this year. If it isn't for the championship more often then not, why is it an important game? You are right, I don't understand that thinking. Ohio State has a "rivalry" with Illinois - they have a trophy and everything - no one in Columbus cares.

[Brian Roastbeef]

Wow. Imagine how long ago that really is.

George W. Bush was President, and still fairly popular.
Nobody had heard of Sarah Palin or Barack Obama, and were perfectly content with that fact.
Lady Gaga was just some girl named Stefani, who was almost normal at the time.
Frasier was doing well early in its final season.
Some team out of Boise was a surprisingly strong 8-1 heading into November. 10-1 as of Nov. 22.

Would that 1 loss on Boise's schedule that year be to Arkansas?

And that is a long time. When Ark beat Georgia Sat. it was the first time in 17 years that it had happened.

Michigan is improved but I will pick Ohio State to win this game.

Yep, Eric is right. Oregon St...

As for the first time in 17 years...

Bill Clinton was President and growing fairly unpopular. (Era of Hillarycare)
Nobody had heard of Newt Gingrich or Mike Huckabee. Modern day Congressman Heath Shuler... was leading Tennessee to a respectable season.
Lady Gaga was some kid in a NJ elementary school. Some of the other kids probably thought she was weird though.
Fraiser was doing well early in its first season.
Boise State's performance was inconsistent... in the Big Sky Conference
Notre Dame football was still considered good by more than just the pundits trying to justify the NBC contract.

[GoBoilers]

The thing that made the rivalry great is one team almost always got to ruin the other's season. It was most always for the championship. Delany has now made it in Oklahoma-Nebraska. That progressed so wl Nebraska ended up leaving the conference altogether. When Oklahoma and Nebraska did play, it wasn't that big a deal and no matter how people tried to hype the game, they couldn't make it matter. That is what Delany and Brandon did to this rivalry. It is irrelevant.

It won't be the end of the rivalry and it wasn't always for the BT championship. I didn't like it when Purdue didn't have home and home in basketball for a fair rivalry. While the rivalry "cooled a little" it was more because Knight and Keady no longer coach (side bar-Keady has a winning record against Knight 22-21 I think). Bo and Woody really got the football rivalry going big time and while I sympathize with your position it won't destroy the rivalry. It was more fun when you are alum and the BT title was involved or one would be denied but, how many times in 100 years did that apply? 40 maybe?

[Spence]

It had title implications something like 70 times. It started with Michigan dominating and the from 49 on, it has had title implications more times than not.

It won't kill the rivalry it just renders it irrelevant.

[Derek]

I've corrected your post Sir.

Lady Gaga was just some guy named Stefani, who was almost normal at the time.

[Brian Roastbeef]

I've corrected your post Sir.

Lady Gaga was just some guy named Stefani, who was almost normal at the time.

Hahaha... yeah, fair enough...

[Spence]

The Last Time Michigan Beat OSU in Football:
Michigan had the longest active streak of bowl game appearances
No Michigan team had ever lost more than seven games in a season
No Michigan team had failed to win back-to-back games at least once in a season since 1962
Every fifth year senior had left Michigan with at least one win against OSU
Facebook wasn't founded yet
A tsunami hadn't devastated Southeast Asia yet
Pope John Paul II was still alive
Hurricane Katrina hadn't devastated New Orleans yet
Saddam Hussein still was on the lam
Google wasn’t a publicly traded stock
Barack Obama was a law school teacher and had not yet been sworn in as an Illinois Senator
Kanye West hadn’t released his debut album yet
George W Bush was in his first term as President
The Boston Red Sox still hadn’t won a World Series title in 85 years
Barry Bonds was selected NL MVP for the 3rd year in a row and the 6th time overall
The Cat in the Hat beat out Gothika and Elf at the box office that weekend
The Madrid Train Bombings hadn’t yet happened
The Abu Ghraib scandal hadn’t yet been made public
LeBron James had played in 13 NBA games
Ronald Reagan was still alive
The Statue of Liberty was still closed to the public in the wake of 9/11
The TV series Lost was still only in development phase
The Washington Nationals were the Montreal Expos
The Malice in the Palace had not yet happened
The #1 song in the country was “Baby Boy” by Beyonce and Sean Paul
The iPod actually had buttons
The show “Friends” was still on the air
“The Da Vinci Code” had come out earlier that year. Not the movie. The book.
Outkast had a big hit with “Hey Ya”.
Theatergoers anxiously awaited the release of “Lord of the Rings: Return of the King”, one month later.
The European Union had 15 members instead of 27
The world had known the name “Steve Bartman” for about five weeks
Sarah Palin was the chairperson of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission
GMail and Flickr were still months away from Beta release
The minimum wage was $5.15 an hour
Tyrone Willingham had another year at Notre Dame
Urban Meyer was in his first year coaching… at Utah
The NFL’s New England Patriots had a trio of rising-star assistant coaches who were expected to go on to great success in head coaching jobs: Charlie Weis, Romeo Crennel and Eric Mangini
None of us had seen Britney Spears naked yet, and it was still an appealing concept
The two defending NFL conference champions were the Oakland Raiders and Tampa Bay Buccaneers
A child who is in 1st grade today was born
Terrelle Pryor was in middle school.

[Brian Roastbeef]

Barack Obama was a law school teacher and had not yet been sworn in as an Illinois Senator
Kanye West hadn’t released his debut album yet
George W Bush was in his first term as President

You're making me want to relive the good old days.

The Boston Red Sox still hadn’t won a World Series title in 85 years

Oh yeah. The good old days.

Ronald Reagan was still alive

Now I'm convinced 2010 stinks.

[Spence]

I cant take credit for none of that, I copy and pasted. But yeah, somethings in the past were better. Just not a Michigan win.

[GoBoilers]

I cant take credit for none of that, I copy and pasted. But yeah, somethings in the past were better. Just not a Michigan win.

Wanna know what I think about Indiana? LOL

[Brian Roastbeef]

I cant take credit for none of that, I copy and pasted. But yeah, somethings in the past were better. Just not a Michigan win.

Yeah, its almost like how the Yankees only tend to win the World Series when there is a Democrat in the White House. Last time they won with a Republican, it was Eisenhower in there. I am a Yankee fan, but even last year I was wondering if it was really worth it.

[Spence]

I hear you.

[WoVeU]

The two defending NFL conference champions were the Oakland Raiders and Tampa Bay Buccaneers

Yeah, seems like a life time ago! I was in College.

[Brian Roastbeef]

You want to know how long ago 2003 is? Syracuse football went 6-6 that season... and people here were pissed. Paul Pasqualoni was fired that year.

Of course, our basketball team were defending champs.