#1 Bama vs #10 Arkansas (week 4)

[RazorHawk]

I don't know. I believe that after that heartbreaker that the Arkansas pride will kick in and they stand a good chance of running the table... so to speak... I don't give up on them that easily...

@ New Mexico State
Toledo
San Jose State
Louisiana Tech
Hawaii
Idaho
Fresno State
@ Nevada
Utah State

Yep, looks like the Hogs should run the table, except the games are:

@ Texas A&M
@ Auburn
Ole Miss
Vanderbilt
@ South Carolina
UTEP
@ Miss State
LSU

Probably will lose one or two more games. Is the WAC looking to expand?

[billybud]

I'd like FSU's chances to run the table on that first schedule you listed.

[Derek]

I think even Georgia could win 6 games with that first schedule.

[silverfox]

Why is it that I can't even say something nice and reassuring about one of your better teams without the getting it thrown back in my face? You guys are incredible. Its your party and you can cry if you want to. This is one of the reasons why I stopped being as involved on this board in the past -- and also why you have pretty much the same 'ole, same 'ole posters.

BTW yes the WAC wants to expand so I am sure the Hogs can negotiate as fair deal...

I used to live and work in Baton Rouge during their heyday and watched many teams get dispatched. Folks within the SEC used to complain about how LSU dominated and it wasn't fair to have to play Baton Rouge on their own home field.

Sportsmanship extends beyond the teams to their fans.

[billybud]

Quit whimpering.

Nobody is throwing anything in "your face". It's football being discussed. Unless you have an inordinate ego need to identify your self worth with the athletic performance of some 19 yeasr old kids, it ain't about you.

It is what it is. A schedule built to be run out. If someone observes that many half way decent teams might go undefeated on that schedule, well, that is probably an accurate observation.

[silverfox]

Whimpering? Commenting that Arkansas might be able to run their season out because of what happened with Alabama is whimpering? I was talking football but you are the one making it more personal. Excuse me but I think you are misleading in your comments. It is you who are sensitive, right? To think an upstart team from an outside the BCS -- let alone the SEC might be credible enough to beat your team at its own game? Do I associate myself with those 19-year old kids? Darm right and proud of it too being a BSU alumnus and fairly close to the program. I warned you all some three years ago what was going to happen with Boise State's recruitment efforts -- but oh well... If you are so worried about age-association then concentrate on the NFL.

Let's face it -- This year BSU beat a very good VT team but lost a million bucks just to be able to do it. They had to travel all the way across the country to meet a team that was playing on turf friendly to them an close by but had to leave a million bucks on the table for the loser. But yet you dare criticize them for wanting to accept a million bucks by Nebraska? Sorry they are not part of your club. But certainly it is interesting that if, by any stroke of luck (which isn't in the cards, right?) they get to play one of your elite for all the marbles you put on an air like they shouldn't be there. But what if they beat your dream teams, heaven forbid -- what excuse is there then...???

You all want to go back five years and talk about the loss to Georgia -- that was five years ago and somehow you want to forget about Oklahoma... right? Oh but Oklahoma was tired for having such a difficult schedule and BSU was fresh from such a weak schedule, right?

Remember your football. After all, look what happened the last time Alabama had to play one of those non-BCS conference schools with a "weak" schedule. Who was that? Oh my the very last team that actually beat Alabama...Utah! Thats who!!!! But then I guess the "Oklahoma excuse" applies there, right?

You are right, the schedule has to be run out -- but why is it that the BCS school all know that on any given day Hawaii, Fresno State or Nevada might embarras them...Let alone Boise State....

You are right, the schedule has to be run out -- Nevada is now a top 25 ranked team -- so that will add to BSU's credits if they win ... sort of unexpected by those of you who don't understand West coast football...But the Broncos must meet them November 26 and if Nevada keeps playing well, who knows you might be accusing us of whimpering about them as well....

I am not directing this at you personally (although it seems to me you are taking it that way -- and everyone knows you are incapable of "whimpering") cuz I knew many a good 'ole boy when I lived in the South that fit your attitude well... I got an excellent idea about talking about College Football -- You defend your conference and I'll defend mine and lets just respect each other's prejudices and differences -- just don't say we are too soft until we beat you -- then try to find an excuse that smells like (oh we were so tired from the exhaustive schedule we play anyway) syndrome.

You comlain about the strength schedule but seem unwilling to still play us even if we earn our way the same way you do through this impractical system called the BCS -- through conference wins. I say leave the whimpering behind and if, at the end of the season our team has to face off with one of your teams then so be it -- Oklahoma understands.

[Spence]

The big problem here isn't SOS, it is that some schools have no chance to make it to the championship. On this board, people have said "when you beat a team from a BCS conference come talk to us." Then they beat a team from a BCS conference in a bowl game and people said you have to beat a team during the season. They did that, and people said "you only beat one"." Then they beat two. They also didn't run from scheduling a good team. Virginia Tech has a good football program. Maybe they don't turn out good this year, but no one that scheduled them could know that they weren't going to be good.

I'm am for letting the best two teams in the country play in the championship game. I don't know if Boise State is one or not, but you know what - I'm not sure about Alabama or Ohio State either and I watch Ohio State play every week. I see lots of holes in both schools. I see holes in Boise State too. I see that as no reason to hold them out of the game. I also see no reason to put them in just because they are undefeated. I feel the same about all the other undefeated teams. I do think Boise State has to get through their schedule without struggling, at least until the play Nevada. Because the schedule isn't as good as it could be. But going on OOC schedule strength on paper - before the season, Boise State had as good or better and OOC schedule as most FBS schools in the country.

[RazorHawk]

The big problem here isn't SOS, it is that some schools have no chance to make it to the championship. On this board, people have said "when you beat a team from a BCS conference come talk to us." Then they beat a team from a BCS conference in a bowl game and people said you have to beat a team during the season. They did that, and people said "you only beat one"." Then they beat two. They also didn't run from scheduling a good team. Virginia Tech has a good football program. Maybe they don't turn out good this year, but no one that scheduled them could know that they weren't going to be good.

I'm am for letting the best two teams in the country play in the championship game. I don't know if Boise State is one or not, but you know what - I'm not sure about Alabama or Ohio State either and I watch Ohio State play every week. I see lots of holes in both schools. I see holes in Boise State too. I see that as no reason to hold them out of the game. I also see no reason to put them in just because they are undefeated. I feel the same about all the other undefeated teams. I do think Boise State has to get through their schedule without struggling, at least until the play Nevada. Because the schedule isn't as good as it could be. But going on OOC schedule strength on paper - before the season, Boise State had as good or better and OOC schedule as most FBS schools in the country.

Makes sense. I think there is just too much parity to have two teams selected to play for the National Championship. I really want a true playoff, but would prefer the old bowl setup no true National Champion. Let the AP, UPI, Sports Illustrated and everyone else that wants to crown the champion, just do it.

Yes there are teams with absolutely no chance to make the championship game. However, Boise State and TCU are not two of those teams. MAC teams would probably fall into that category, along with Iowa State.

[Spence]

I think Boise State has a better chance, given the last few years. I'm not sure it is a good chance.

I do agree with you that the old system was lots better then pretending we know anything about the strength of these teams. The old system supported the system well, maybe not as lucrative. but pretty well. I hope the Brass ring doesn't turn into tin because of the endless quest for number one.

[silverfox]

The season is still young and there are a lot of football games yet left to be played. All of this may be a moot point anyway.... Perhaps Bama, OS and BSU will all end up losing three games this season anyway -- leaving Arkansas and Texas for the NC game...LOL...Stranger things have happened...

[Spence]

I think you are right, it is too early really to assess who is best right now. I think we know who the good teams are, but it is going to take some time to move to the next step.

[silverfox]

Yeppers

[Vileborg]

Two things I know.

The SEC West is not done tumbling and theres no telling how it's going to land. Alabama still has Florida, So Caro., LSU, and Auburn to face down to claim anything. Thats a lot of land mines and it could go bad fast.

And

You remember the Florida team that won the national championship a couple years ago? Remember how they had a lot of close games but Tebow always seemed to make the plays when he needed too and they always seemed to add that padding touchdown late? Thats the same stuff I'm seeing out of Boise St. They seem to hold that carrot just out of reach and then snatch it away if you get too close. Not too impressive in everything they do but I'd take them to win on any field on any day. Did they face the best that Virginia Tech has to offer? No, they did not. Did they face down another Perennial power? Yes, they did. Virginia Tech is starting to put it together and they'll end up paying large dividends come November.



That Florida team had a bunch of heart, and when it comes down to it I'll take heart over talent any day.

[billybud]

And then...you have to look at teams slugging through a tough schedule.

Poor Ole Bama...just finished a gut check game with Arkansas and now they must suit up for Florida. And, if the Tide gets past Florida, they can't let down because a hard hitting South Carolina is waiting to take their lick next....

It is just a multitude of difficulty points compared to playing New Mexico State, Toledo, and San Jose State (Bama has already played San Jose State...won 48-3)

[billybud]

The VT vs NC State game this week will be a humdinger.

NC State is undefeated with double digit wins over Cincinnati and Georgia Tech.....VT is coming off of their first good game with their shut out of BC....(They came alive in the second half vs ECU after trailing at halftime).