General thoughts: scoring options
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Re: General thoughts: scoring options
You are making something relatively simple - lots harder. No reason to over think it.
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Re: General thoughts: scoring options
So I watched it and there was a link to this play......tough two points.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nf2wgeIRDPo&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nf2wgeIRDPo&NR=1
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Spence wrote:You are making something relatively simple - lots harder. No reason to over think it.
This is why I addressed choose.
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WoVeU wrote:Spence wrote:You are making something relatively simple - lots harder. No reason to over think it.
This is why I addressed choose.
I know, so is he.

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donovan wrote:So I watched it and there was a link to this play......tough two points.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nf2wgeIRDPo&NR=1
Cool. But it was a touch back...no points. The defense gained 20 yards of field position out of it.
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Ok, you collected with the conditional given, duh.
And kept everything in singular approach...which I took to be the case.
And kept everything in singular approach...which I took to be the case.
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If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.
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Re: General thoughts: scoring options
You guys are leaving out the "situational factors"...
When deciding whether to go for a two point conversion, the time left in the game is an important factor to add to the equation. Also the relative score...your lead or how much you must catch up.
I have always like this site's analysis...I have linked their two point conversion chart.
http://www.footballcommentary.com/twoptchart.htm
When deciding whether to go for a two point conversion, the time left in the game is an important factor to add to the equation. Also the relative score...your lead or how much you must catch up.
I have always like this site's analysis...I have linked their two point conversion chart.
http://www.footballcommentary.com/twoptchart.htm
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Re: General thoughts: scoring options
Take a look at this model which describes odds for going for it on 4th and taking the 2 point conversion....
http://www.footballcommentary.com/blunders.htm
http://www.footballcommentary.com/blunders.htm
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OK 

Win or Lose - IT'S HOW YOU HYPE THE OUTCOME! BCS logic: When teams in the AQ conferences lose, it shows how tough those conferences are; when teams in non-AQ conferences lose, it is weakness.
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chooseaspy wrote:silverfox wrote:OK
Surprise, surprise...BSU was the most frequent 2-point leader last season:
http://ncaafootball.fanhouse.com/2010/1 ... t-edition/
also see link to http://cfbstats.com which was used as the reference for the PAT data
Before I even got down to this post I was considering team types and situations for going for 2. And Boise State popped in my head. If I were going to bet on any team converting the deuce, I would take Boise. I'd like to see them go for 2 every time. You have to cover the whole field against Boise, it is very hard to prevent them gaining 3 yards. Why is college football using the 3 yard line anyway. I like the 2 yard line. And I'd like to see the 1 point conversion done away with.
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Did anybody read the portion in that article about "Unlucky U", N. Texas!!!
Just terrible events!

Just terrible events!
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chooseaspy wrote:silverfox wrote:OK
Surprise, surprise...BSU was the most frequent 2-point leader last season:
http://ncaafootball.fanhouse.com/2010/1 ... t-edition/
also see link to http://cfbstats.com which was used as the reference for the PAT data
You need to compute the numbers with the SOS factored.

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Re: General thoughts: scoring options
Why not go for two when you are 40 point favorites? A missed point here and there won't be crucial.
I would expect more risk taking when the downside of failure is negligible.
I would expect more risk taking when the downside of failure is negligible.
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billybud wrote:Why not go for two when you are 40 point favorites? A missed point here and there won't be crucial.
I would expect more risk taking when the downside of failure is negligible.
Me too, which of course, makes it not risky at all.
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donovan wrote:billybud wrote:Why not go for two when you are 40 point favorites? A missed point here and there won't be crucial.
I would expect more risk taking when the downside of failure is negligible.
Me too, which of course, makes it not risky at all.
You know 3 or 4 of those 2pt conversions could help in the NC against TCU. I just think they should practice now.
Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves.
If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.
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If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.
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