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Re: Texas

Postby Spence » Mon Nov 08, 2010 12:29 pm

Texas not going to a bowl is really going to cause a stir in the B-12 ranks. They may be redoing some contracts this winter. Basketball better have a good year. :lol:
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Re: Texas

Postby Cane from the Bend » Mon Nov 08, 2010 4:08 pm

RazorHawk wrote:And after the loss last week, Mack Brown was blaming the players and assistant coaches. Might be time for Mack to let loose of his 5 Million a year job and retire.



I'm pretty sure that Mack Brown said this was going to be his last year, before the start of the season.

I heard more than one time that Muschamp is taking over next year; it's supposed to be the reason why he turned down the Tennessee job.

I wonder if any of this has to do with Mack's comments ... if possibly he stepped aside to let next year's staff run things; and Brown noticed that they weren't preparing seriously enough ...

And yes, Texas lost to Oklahoma 12-0 in 2004.

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Re: Texas

Postby Spence » Mon Nov 08, 2010 4:29 pm

Or maybe MB's staff were making sure he didn't have designs on another year. I think all this coach is waiting stuff is bad for the school. It would have to strain the relationship of the coaches involved. On paper it looks like it would be a smooth transition, but I am starting to think the best way is for a clean break. If you want to hire a guy now and you have a coach, then break ties with the present coach and hire the guy you think you want for the job. If not wait until your ready to hire another coach and then start your search.

One thing Ohio State has done since Tressel took over is to keep an office for the older coaches. They are the ambassadors for the school and program and they have a unique perspective. I thought having John Cooper in an office near Tressel would be uncomfortable for them, but it hasn't turned out that way.
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Re: Texas

Postby Yeofoot » Thu Nov 18, 2010 3:09 pm

I tell you what disgusts me...seeing the stands half empty during the 2nd half of the Okie Lite game...flying into Austin last week and hardly seeing anyone still wearing their burnt orange. I'm still flying my flag, still wearing my horns. It was kinda neat after the VY NC to see everyone in the state jump on the bandwagon, but OMG, how fast they fell off.

I've watched every minute of every game this year, even though it's been pretty traumatic. Now, everyone wants to fire all the coaches, because CLEARLY they don't know how to coach. Texas has had a lot of "miscues," but all the teams they've played have had great games against Texas.

Texas hasn''t always dominated as a team to get to 10 wins so many times this decade...Over the last few years, Texas has had the benefit of a superstar in the backfield that could put the team on their shoulders and carry them in A LOT of games.

Jamaal Charles' 200+ yards in the 4th quarter against Nebraska to come back.
VY twice overcame a huge deficit against Okie Lite to come back
Colt lead many, many game winning drives

Texas will be back, but in the meantime, I'm just enjoying the memories of those great seasons, because this season makes them all the sweeter.



And don't be fooled, my absence on here has nothing to do with Texas' awful football team, I have a newborn that gets very fussy when Dad tries to play online! :D

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Re: Texas

Postby Spence » Thu Nov 18, 2010 3:40 pm

Part of being a real fan is suffering through the bad times and hoping that the suffering isn't long.
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Re: Texas

Postby RazorHawk » Thu Nov 18, 2010 4:15 pm

Spence wrote:Part of being a real fan is suffering through the bad times and hoping that the suffering isn't long.
And I think fans of perennial top programs, such as Texas, Alabama, Nebraska, Oklahoma and Ohio St have not had to endure the long periods of down years and few years of 9 or 10 win seasons.

As an Iowa and Arkansas fan I have had more than my share of down years, but when a good year comes along it is great fun. A single loss does not end the year ever for me. Most will not remember how bad Iowa was prior to Hayden Fry arriving in Iowa City. Twenty, yes 20 straight years without an above .500 season.

In many years I would have to add the number of wins between both my teams to equal that of the top programs.
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Re: Texas

Postby GoBoilers » Thu Nov 18, 2010 4:25 pm

RazorHawk wrote:
Spence wrote:Part of being a real fan is suffering through the bad times and hoping that the suffering isn't long.
And I think fans of perennial top programs, such as Texas, Alabama, Nebraska, Oklahoma and Ohio St have not had to endure the long periods of down years and few years of 9 or 10 win seasons.

As an Iowa and Arkansas fan I have had more than my share of down years, but when a good year comes along it is great fun. A single loss does not end the year ever for me. Most will not remember how bad Iowa was prior to Hayden Fry arriving in Iowa City. Twenty, yes 20 straight years without an above .500 season.

In many years I would have to add the number of wins between both my teams to equal that of the top programs.

I remember those 20 years! Purdue used lick their chops waiting to play them. Now we are looking for some 5A high schools to play.
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Re: Texas

Postby Spence » Thu Nov 18, 2010 5:03 pm

RazorHawk wrote:
Spence wrote:Part of being a real fan is suffering through the bad times and hoping that the suffering isn't long.
And I think fans of perennial top programs, such as Texas, Alabama, Nebraska, Oklahoma and Ohio St have not had to endure the long periods of down years and few years of 9 or 10 win seasons.

As an Iowa and Arkansas fan I have had more than my share of down years, but when a good year comes along it is great fun. A single loss does not end the year ever for me. Most will not remember how bad Iowa was prior to Hayden Fry arriving in Iowa City. Twenty, yes 20 straight years without an above .500 season.

In many years I would have to add the number of wins between both my teams to equal that of the top programs.


You are right. Fans of programs who don't struggle like lots of others are spoiled when it comes to down periods or even our definition of down. Buckeye fans thought the John Cooper era was a nightmare, but lots of coaches would have liked to have his record. I guess it depends on expectations. When I think Ohio State has a good enough team and they lose, I do look at it as the end of the season. If I think it is a year where we have lots of turnover on skill position players I don't mind it so much. Ohio State entered the year very inexperienced in the defensive back field, but the rest of the team had plenty of experience and we thought this could be a great year. It was clear pretty early that Ohio State wasn't going to be as good as I had though, but you still hold on to that until reality hits you in the face.

I do admire fans of teams the have long struggles. I hope I could remain faithful like that, but I don't know. One thing I have noticed is when a team is good for a long time -like ND- their fans get a few wins racked up early in the year and they declare themselves back immediately even though it is usually not the case. Fans of teams that struggle more often expect the hammer to fall around every corner, even with a good year. It is all relative. :lol:
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Re: Texas

Postby Vileborg » Fri Nov 19, 2010 8:36 am

The easiest part of coaching is when you have players like McCoy and Young. It's the years when you have a new quarterback that you have to sculpt and mold that the real coaching begins. With Texas recruiting there is no way they should miss bowls. The talent level they recruit should be tops in the nation and if it's not then it's the coaching staffs fault. Which leads me to my next point. Coaching is about getting the next team ready but also about keeping them motivated even in the face of adversity. As a coach, your there to coach them on the road to success otherwise the failure falls on your shoulders. I have to wonder if Brown isn't thinking he's too good to coach kids up. I'm hoping he hasn't gotten to the point of "This is Texas that should be all the motivation you need." There are coaches who would sell their left arm for the talent that walks in his front door and any mediocre coaching staff should have them in a bowl.

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Re: Texas

Postby Yeofoot » Wed Dec 01, 2010 1:54 pm

As far as a coaching staff shakeup, if 2 National Championship appearances and 1 Crystal Ball don't get you a few extra years, something is definitely wrong with the world! My prediction:

Greg Davis is demoted to Co-Offensive Coordinator and loses QBs coaching duties. Major Applewhite is Co-Offensive Coordinator and QBs coach. Then Texas hires a legitimate Runningbacks coach.



Coolest thing ever: I received a scholarship offer for Dillon Duane Lightfoot, actually signed by Mack Brown. Pretty much the coolest thing I've ever seen! It says things like "Contingent upon being at least 6'2" and 250lbs. "40" time must be a 4.4 or lower, and this must be done running, not crawling. Oh yeah, definitely framed in the nursery!

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Re: Texas

Postby Spence » Wed Dec 01, 2010 3:54 pm

Yeofoot wrote:As far as a coaching staff shakeup, if 2 National Championship appearances and 1 Crystal Ball don't get you a few extra years, something is definitely wrong with the world! My prediction:

Greg Davis is demoted to Co-Offensive Coordinator and loses QBs coaching duties. Major Applewhite is Co-Offensive Coordinator and QBs coach. Then Texas hires a legitimate Runningbacks coach.



Coolest thing ever: I received a scholarship offer for Dillon Duane Lightfoot, actually signed by Mack Brown. Pretty much the coolest thing I've ever seen! It says things like "Contingent upon being at least 6'2" and 250lbs. "40" time must be a 4.4 or lower, and this must be done running, not crawling. Oh yeah, definitely framed in the nursery!


Very cool Yeo. Kids make it all worth it.

If Mack Brown gets fired after one bad year they are officially being ran by the knee jerk assoc. No way he gets fired.
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Re: Texas

Postby Yeofoot » Wed Dec 01, 2010 7:35 pm

The pulse around Austin is: "Greg Davis needs to go."

Greg Davis' offense didn't let Cyrus Gray run for 200+ yards on Thanksgiving.


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