sCam Newton

[Dossenator]

I hope Auburn loses to Bama...

What a bunch of thugs...and Fairly, DE, is the worst. Cheap hits, scouring the QB's face when he is on top of him (8 stitches..and caught on tape), spearing the QB in the back late (caught on tape), and finally taking the QB out by diving at his knees after he's thrown.

Although two Tigers were ejected and won't play Bama, Fairly will. The SEC needes to take some action against this guy...this isn't isolated.

http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/sec-dange ... shed-29239

I have always pulled for Auburn over Alabama, much the same as I always pull for Miss St over Ole Miss. But with the Newton and Fairley crap, I would like to see Bama win, and it could cost Arkansas a better bowl game.

Fairly has been doing this all year. He took a cheap shot against Mallett and knocked him out of the game with a concussion. That spear in the back of Murray last week was a play that should get him benched against Bama...but it won't. Also, against LSU, he picked up Jefferson and body slammed him to the ground....no flag was thrown (by the way that's his favorite move....pick the QB off the ground and drive them into the dirt).

Razorhawk...I am with you. An Auburn win would keep Ark's BCS hopes alive....but no way I can pull for Auburn. To watch their coach act like a child after Newton scored that first TD this past week was disgusting.

[billybud]

The refs let this happen.

Here Farley grinds his helmet against Murray while on ground...resulting in 6 stitches.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QfSRUk0 ... r_embedded

[Derek]

My only beef is that paying gives them an unfair advantage in recruiting. Cam Newton is still one heck of a quarterback and would have benefited any program no matter where he went. If Auburn paid quite a few of its top recruits then it should be hit hard.

They need to derail the Tiger Express this year if this is true. No taking it back in hindsight.

All I can say is everyone is quick to call USC and Reggie cheaters. The fact is that the university did not offer a child the money, a potential agent did. I think if Auburn payed a student that is a recruiting violation. they need to be punished heavier than USC. He will go to the NFL and not care about his school.

yes, I do believe that someone in the AD knew about it. Therefore the punishment should be more severe.

If all of this is true, like the evidence shows. Offering a player 200K to come play at your school...deserves the same "Death Penalty" they gave SMU.

[Vileborg]

I guess if your going to be crooked might as well be all belt and allow everything. This is like a front running political candidate that people like and who has a lot of promise and then a cheating scandal comes out. As they are digging into the cheating scandal they find little boys locked in his basement. I would think the NCAA would be all over this and especially the spearing and the helmet grind. It's obvious his coach is going to let that slide, and since the coach isn't worth a darn maybe the NCAA should step in before someone gets hurt.

[GoBoilers]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5813734

[Spence]

I his dad acted without him knowing, and I feel sorry for the kid, but his dad was acting as his agent. That basically makes him ineligible. You have to look at it that way or it trigger having it happen over and over. I really hope they really crack down on the real cheating going on and forget about a kid getting his dinner paid for at a local restaurant. They are not this same thing and shouldn't be treated as the same thing.

[Derek]

I agree with the sentiment that they are different things. I don't know if I agree with the fact that Cam knew anything about it.

I would say the odds are that he did know, and was involved in it. I mean why he promise a signature for money, if he knew he could not deliver? Are we going to assume that he will play WHEREVER his father tells him? I don't see that happening IMO. I know I would go where I felt like I could get the most playing time, etc.

[billybud]

Cam did tell MSU that he wanted to play for them but his dad wantede him to play for Auburn.

[donovan]

Cam did tell MSU that he wanted to play for them but his dad wantede him to play for Auburn.

Then it is pretty hard to believe he did not know what his Dad was thinking. My personal belief would be that parents act as the kid's "agent" in about 98% of all signings. Home visits by the school are not to visit the players. They sit in your house and they are talking to the parents. Have had many discussions of what schools said during these home visits and what actually transpired.

[Spence]

My point is that whether he knew or not, If his father took payment for his services the rules have been broken and he is ineligible. If he didn't no then his father needs to explain to his son why he is ineligible, but it doesn't change anything as far as the rules are concerned

[billybud]

If this is true...Auburn's goose is in the oven...but, you'd think that with the FBI on it, it will come out...end up to be either sensationalism or penalties for Auburn.

http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-footba ... llegations

[Spence]

You're right because The FBI has teeth, they will get answers.

[Dossenator]

Last week they repoted that an emotional Cam called Miss St to tell them that his dad chose Auburn because the money was too good. And Cecil wants us to believe his son did not know. But like Spence said, it does not matter if he knew. The rule is pretty clear about this.

The rumors now say this goes much deeper then Cam....apparently the FBI have been wire tapping since January. The stories have several boosters, banks, and Alabama casinos envoled in illegal activity...including pay for play schemes.

I wonder how long it will take for anyone to make an official statement in regard to what the FBI found out? I think it benefits the NCAA to get this resolved before the SEC Championship game...what a fiasco if they wait to seasons end and Auburn ends up winning it all.

[billybud]

Hmmm....

According to what I have reading....both Auburn and Alabama have similar ties to huge non profit money machines and the same lobbying group. I wonder if both schools get caught up in this?

If the NCAA finds out that paying for athetes is happening at both schools, can they afford to heavily penalize both?

[Dossenator]

Here is a great article speaking of what Billybud mentioned.....this is bigger than the Cam situation. I think it may affect more than just the Auburn athletic program (or Bama)....it may affect their entire institutions.

http://www.thetuskegeenews.com/articles ... 017322.txt