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NCAA Violations for Pryor?

Postby Spence » Wed Dec 08, 2010 9:45 pm

Terrelle Pryor was going to donate his Sugar Bowl tickets to the Make a wish foundation and the NCAA stopped it. This is completely ridiculous. Now a player can't give away something of his to try and do a little good.


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Re: NCAA Violations for Pryor?

Postby strawman » Wed Dec 08, 2010 11:00 pm

He should have donated them to Cecil Newton's church. That would be OK.
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Re: NCAA Violations for Pryor?

Postby Spence » Wed Dec 08, 2010 11:02 pm

strawman wrote:He should have donated them to Cecil Newton's church. That would be OK.


As long as he didn't know he donated them. :lol: Maybe he should give the tickets to his Dad and his Dad should give them to make a wish - without Terrelle's knowledge. :lol:
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Re: NCAA Violations for Pryor?

Postby Dossenator » Wed Dec 08, 2010 11:08 pm

That is just crazy. The NCAA is run by a bunch of imbeciles.
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Re: NCAA Violations for Pryor?

Postby Spence » Wed Dec 08, 2010 11:14 pm

Something Donovan has said for a long time. I guess his experience with them gave him a view we are only starting to see now.
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Re: NCAA Violations for Pryor?

Postby Spence » Wed Dec 08, 2010 11:24 pm

The bad thing in this case is that here is a kid trying to do what his coach preaches. He is told that he should give back. He decides to do just that and they tell him it is illegal. He could have sold them to another student or his dad and had a little pocket money in New Orleans but he doesn't do that. He and a teammate decide to do something nice and they jump right on him. Props to the NCAA for promoting civic responsibility.
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Re: NCAA Violations for Pryor?

Postby billybud » Thu Dec 09, 2010 7:25 am

Someone didn't read the story before taking off on it...

1...The NCAA was not involved, only the Buckeye compliance people.
2...Nothing was wrong with giving the tickets to a charity...The compliance office actually encouraged that method.
3...It was his plan to give most of his remaining tickets to Ohio State fans that was the problem (in that some could be boosters or potential recruits).

It is sensational to decry that he could not give his tickets to Make a Wish...but it is not factual, according to that link.
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Re: NCAA Violations for Pryor?

Postby Spence » Thu Dec 09, 2010 9:42 am

The Ohio State compliance office is ran by former NCAA officials. Ohio State does that because the NCAA is a reactionary body. It keeps them from getting in trouble. Even if he ends up being able to give the tickets to make a wish, he should be able to give them away for no gain to anyone. Especially a random drawing, which is what he and Donnie Evege were trying to do. They were also trying to get other players to donate their tickets to different organizations. Compliance said that the NCAA wouldn't allow it. He can't give them to Children's hospital Columbus or any one of several other organizations.

It seems that even though the players can't do it, that the university can - which makes no sense to me - so I think the fact that the players have tried to do something and couldn't will cause the University to carry out what the players couldn't do.
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Re: NCAA Violations for Pryor?

Postby GoBoilers » Thu Dec 09, 2010 11:09 am

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Re: NCAA Violations for Pryor?

Postby billybud » Thu Dec 09, 2010 11:29 am

Actually..."random drawing" is also not factual.

According to the article..the recipients would be hand chosen by the athletes based on their responses. No randomness about it.

This whole thread started with a non factual premise.
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Re: NCAA Violations for Pryor?

Postby donovan » Thu Dec 09, 2010 11:30 am

I only know, my limited experience many years, now over 10. Every game I attended where I was "given" tickets this is how it worked. And it was the same at every game I attended, home or away. (Some of the away games were, admittedly "Little Sisters of the Poor) Wisconsin, TCU, Utah, UCLA, Arkansas, Arkansas State, Oregon State, Oregon plus the WAC and Big Sky conference games) The same procedure was used in home and away games. Each athlete was given a certain number of tickets...Freshman and Sophomores, 4 each and Junior and Seniors 8 each...This is from memory so....who remembers...
There were no actual tickets. The athlete turned in the names of who was going to attend about a week in advance. Their names were put on a list and when you got to the stadium you went to a special area where people at tables checked your ID and then gave you the tickets, with seat assignments. All of these tickets were in the same section, mostly on about the 40 yard line about half way up. Everyone from both teams sat together, so it was not uncommon to sit next to parents from the other school. (Great times and everyone always looked at for each others kid.) This same procedure was used at every stadium I visited. If an athlete was not going to use, that is have four or eight people come and attend, and another had more than four or eight, they would go to their friends and have them put down the extra guests on the list under their name. This was done everywhere and was even facilitated by the ticket people. (Just because an athlete does not know you does not mean he could not put you on his list...He had to turn in your name..was not "given" to anyone.) So..when people say the athlete tried to give away his tickets...not even sure what that means, because there are no tickets. Only names on a list. Is it still the same way. A quick phone call said it is, only more security on who is picking you the tickets....(Yes...an athlete could put down a name, have someone pick them up and leave and go outside and scalp them...that would be a violation...but do not think that happened, not that I know of.)
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Re: NCAA Violations for Pryor?

Postby billybud » Thu Dec 09, 2010 11:35 am

Those are "call for" or some say "will call" tickets.

I thought it was a hoot when Atlanta Falcon tickets were being left on a "call for" basis for Elvis every game.
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Re: NCAA Violations for Pryor?

Postby donovan » Thu Dec 09, 2010 11:37 am

billybud wrote:Those are "call for" or some say "will call" tickets.

I thought it was a hoot when Atlanta Falcon tickets were being left on a "call for" basis for Elvis every game.


That is exactly what they are, just special tables were set up and not at the normal will call office.

I understand Elvis still attends...and if not, I don't want to know about it.
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Re: NCAA Violations for Pryor?

Postby billybud » Thu Dec 09, 2010 11:43 am

Athletes have sold their tickets and got into NCAA violations...10 years or so ago at Notre Dame. It does get crazy though.

The NCAA has ruled that you can not even sell your own property. The nine Georgia players who listed their SEC rings on eBay caused a minor uproar, and AJ Green got in trouble for selling a used jersey.
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Re: NCAA Violations for Pryor?

Postby donovan » Thu Dec 09, 2010 12:05 pm

You certainly could charge someone to have them put their name on the list. And as for the Jersey's....Schools sell them to the brokers and some of them bring big bucks...one advertises on this site. And...the NCAA does not let these kids have jobs during the season...which of course is all year long..
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