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Re: Miami of Ohio & OSU...study on admissions

Postby donovan » Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:39 am

me too. You are right, the dynamics of the game will change. And it is far from over. College baseball has gotten out of control with the composite bats. When was it a few years back when USC and Arizona had a college world series game that end 21-14. That was the start of uncontrolled composite bats. One of the problems still not solved is how umpires are going to police bats being used. They have not been able to do so in college for years. Anyway.....College ball has started and MLB Spring Training is under way. I am good until Autumn. Now if baseball would quit trying to play forever. What happened to Sport Seasons?
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Postby billybud » Tue Feb 22, 2011 11:21 am

Check out the new timing rule in college...the pitcher has a clock running when he receives the ball back from the catcher...20 seconds to pitch it unless there is a man on base. The ump keeps time.
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Postby donovan » Tue Feb 22, 2011 11:32 am

billybud wrote:Check out the new timing rule in college...the pitcher has a clock running when he receives the ball back from the catcher...20 seconds to pitch it unless there is a man on base. The ump keeps time.


I understand that Div I will have a clock. Apparently the SEC experimented with this....There is a 90 second rule between innings....EXCEPT in televised games....follow the money. I do not understand this need to speed up games. If it is fun, make it last longer...work..speed it up.
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Postby Spence » Tue Feb 22, 2011 5:40 pm

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billybud wrote:Check out the new timing rule in college...the pitcher has a clock running when he receives the ball back from the catcher...20 seconds to pitch it unless there is a man on base. The ump keeps time.


I understand that Div I will have a clock. Apparently the SEC experimented with this....There is a 90 second rule between innings....EXCEPT in televised games....follow the money. I do not understand this need to speed up games. If it is fun, make it last longer...work..speed it up.


I agree. When we were kids playing in the field, games lasted all day. I don't know how many innings we played, but we always knew who won. :lol:

I was a catcher, so from that point of view, I wouldn't have minded speeding up the pitcher a little. I always liked the power pitchers, they never messed around. The junk ball guys were mostly head cases. :lol:
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Postby Vileborg » Wed Feb 23, 2011 10:02 am

The article said they admitted 10 to 1 AA to whites, but it also said that AA Students only make up 4.3% of the student body. Sounds to me like spaghetti, throw the whole pan against the wall and hope some of it sticks. While most Whites stick so they can't admit as many or the school will be over populated.

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Postby donovan » Wed Feb 23, 2011 10:43 am

Our science has grown exponentially...albeit artificially....Our morals and ethics are still in the dark ages. These problems will be with us always because we care more about arithmetic than each other. When the war cry against central planning is heeded then maybe .Recent studies, that took about 14 seconds, note this has been the case since Adam and Eve...Oh pshaw..like every other drum I beat...in the collective words of my children..."Dad...no one cares." (Read Frederich Von Hayek's The Road to Serfdom.)
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Postby billybud » Wed Feb 23, 2011 4:16 pm

As I've posted before, I'm a great believer in the Serengeti principle (natural selection). Every morning the gazelle gets up knowing it has to be faster than than the fastest lion. And also every morning a hungry lion gets up knowing it must be faster than the slowest gazelle...does that make me a conservative or a liberal, or a believer in nature's evolved motivator?

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The problem is that the packs are separating. Gazelles are getting faster and fatter...and some lions are falling further and further behind the pack. In nature, that problem takes care of itself...But humans are more like wolves...the pack must survive as a whole, not as individuals..

If you are a gazelle, you don't like being hobbled in order to even out the Serengeti. If you are a a discouraged. slow and hungry lion, you say.."about darn time that someone did something to slow down those fat cat gazelles".
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Postby Spence » Wed Feb 23, 2011 6:26 pm

donovan wrote:Our science has grown exponentially...albeit artificially....Our morals and ethics are still in the dark ages. These problems will be with us always because we care more about arithmetic than each other. When the war cry against central planning is heeded then maybe .Recent studies, that took about 14 seconds, note this has been the case since Adam and Eve...Oh pshaw..like every other drum I beat...in the collective words of my children..."Dad...no one cares." (Read Frederich Von Hayek's The Road to Serfdom.)



I agree. Technology has grown at a greater rate than we know how to deal with it. The only thing I don't agree with is that we care about arithmetic. We don't care about that either, or history. Kids can't make change. The government can't count for sure. Even the IRS gives some people back more money than they pay in and they call it a refund. I guess we need help with our vocabulary as well. :lol:
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Postby Spence » Wed Feb 23, 2011 6:36 pm

billybud wrote:As I've posted before, I'm a great believer in the Serengeti principle (natural selection). Every morning the gazelle gets up knowing it has to be faster than than the fastest lion. And also every morning a hungry lion gets up knowing it must be faster than the slowest gazelle...does that make me a conservative or a liberal, or a believer in nature's evolved motivator?

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The problem is that the packs are separating. Gazelles are getting faster and fatter...and some lions are falling further and further behind the pack. In nature, that problem takes care of itself...But humans are more like wolves...the pack must survive as a whole, not as individuals..

If you are a gazelle, you don't like being hobbled in order to even out the Serengeti. If you are a a discouraged. slow and hungry lion, you say.."about darn time that someone did something to slow down those fat cat gazelles".


I believe that most people act like conservatives in the way they life their lives, but many of those same people believe someone else (generally "the government") should help out those in need. I believe we should help out those who reallly need help personally and locally, because then the ones who truely need help will get it and those who are taking us for a ride will not. I know people that justify helping people who are taking advantage of the system by saying "yes, but better to let some take advantage than let anyone slip through the cracks. I guarantee you we could afford to help those who really need help and he could provide them with as much help as they needed if there weren't so many riding on the back of the system who take advantage.
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Postby billybud » Wed Feb 23, 2011 6:43 pm

I guarantee you that we help those who are most "like us".

Tribalism is so deeply engrained that it may now be a genetic reponse.
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Postby Spence » Wed Feb 23, 2011 7:15 pm

billybud wrote:I guarantee you that we help those who are most "like us".

Tribalism is so deeply engrained that it may now be a genetic reponse.


Maybe, but we also most likely live beside those most like us so that is basically what I am talking about. Help those around you that need help. (not you, but the collective "you") People have helped there neighbors for years and years and it worked pretty well, then we decided to let an entity without a face (the government) "help". It worked OK at first because people had pride and only those who really needed it took it. Today, every one is looking for a way to shove their problems onto "the government". Sometimes we are successful and sometimes we aren't. Sometimes if you do everything right you still hit a wall. That is life, no one owes me anything. It is nice, though, if I fall that my neighbor may pick me up. I should also repay or return the favor if he falls. Today, we are mostly to self envolved to even know our neighbors. I may know the guy who lives beside me, but probably not the guy who lives down the street. There is no real community anymore. I grew up in a neighborhood. There were may kids, every body kept an eye on everybody elses kids. We knew each other, we helped each other, but we made our own way. Today we can't let our kids out of our sight. Too many weirdos. What is the difference between now and then? Then. not many weirdos dared acting on their urges. They didn't dare.

Being moral today is considered abnormal.
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Postby billybud » Wed Feb 23, 2011 8:55 pm

Great Spence...the 18th century model....when we all lived in villages and farm communities.

It worked in context...but the context is now worlds away...
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Postby Spence » Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:30 pm

billybud wrote:Great Spence...the 18th century model....when we all lived in villages and farm communities.

It worked in context...but the context is now worlds away...


Still works. It all comes down to famly and respect for other people. It worked in the 19th century and even half of the 20th century also. Now we want people who need help to be helped, we just want someone else to do it.
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Postby donovan » Thu Feb 24, 2011 4:40 am

billybud wrote:Great Spence...the 18th century model....when we all lived in villages and farm communities.


It worked in context...but the context is now worlds away...


You may be right. But that is the point. There was time when problems and issues were handled on a local level. No one was looking for a person thousands of miles away to make a decision on how they should or should not live and what should happen when rules were violated. Admittedly there was not "a sameness" throughout the country. That was, by intent the purpose of states. Sameness is not equality. Where does this all stop. When do we give up on things that do not work. When do we go back to what did work. I hear these arguments for change. Change to what? We are like the airplane going 800 MPH, and when the pilot was asked where are we going, he replied, "I don't know, but we are making good time."

And who else reports this stuff other than NPR. http://www.npr.org/2011/02/24/133875785/a-push-for-more-women-on-corporate-boards?ft=1&f=1001
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Re: Miami of Ohio & OSU...study on admissions

Postby billybud » Thu Feb 24, 2011 8:39 am

Once not that long ago, people never lived farther than a few miles from their birth place. They were known to their community, which, after all, was just an extended family. My grandfather courted and married the girl on the farm down the road...our two families lived side by side on those farms for about 150 years. And I can still name every farm that was on Muttart road in the 1950's....now, there are a couple of subdivisions where the farms used to be in my youth...subdivisions full of people from somewhere else.

We are now a nation of strangers. We no longer pick up hitchhikers (a common way to travel when I was young). We give to United Way in a very impersonal type of giving, but don't bring home for dinner that homeless alchoholic vet that we see panhandling. Some of our cars have doors that automatically lock once moving.

We fear driving in some parts of big cities after dark, our food has safety caps to prevent someone tampering, kids are running in packs strapping guns, and we can't fly anywhere without being xrayed, wanded, and frisked.

We have topped up the moat and pulled up the drawbridge. It is us against them.

And, who is "them". Well, our extended family is no longer a village. We live amongst 50,000 strangers.....and we fear them. Home security is a big business...the farmers of my youth didn't even think about such nonsense. They feared the weather, not their neighbors.
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