If....!!!!!

[Derek]

Yet they were kept out by these "nonexisting" rules. My point has NOTHING to do with personal bias.

And I'll take your opinion that rules are not fixed and open to interpretation depending on the team involved, as bias.

How does this bias benefit me. I have nothing personally invested in this, other than seeing the two best teams play for the championship.

Your perspective has everything to do with bias. Because you are only upset with regards to how things did not go in favor of Georgia.

And now that it may go Alabama's way, you only have a problem with it . . . on Georgia's behalf.

Had Georgia played in the national championship in 2007, you would not complain now.

That is pure slant.

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It does not benefit you, I was just using your logic. If following the rules is bias, then fine.

Wow....Ok......I would not have complained in 2007 because they deserved it.....but they were kept out BECAUSE they did not win the conference....FAIR ENOUGH....Nuff said. if that's the rules...FAIR ENOUGH.

Fast forward 4 years.................A team that DID NOT win their conference (Does NOT matter how good they are).........is in the SAME position....You treat them differently. Favoritism.

I'm not mad that Ga did not go to the NCG in 2007.

I'm mad that ESPN amongst others.....are apparently OK with rules being as flexible as Laffy taffy and applied ad hoc while others are treated differently because of their name.

I also belive the ESPN takes great joy in all of this discussion and chaos, because they will not rest until a Playoff is in place.

They are nothing more than an Agent Provocateur.

[Cane from the Bend]

You say taht:

Body of work had nothing to do with it.

But ND was kept out of a bowl game, because of a loss that Syracuse suffered.
That is how body of work can adversely affect a team.

Who you win against can directly hurt you down the road.

If someone on your schedule loses their way out of being ranked (See Oregon's win over no longer ranked Arizona St).

Your opponents' losses deplete your strength of schedule.
Conversely, your opponents' wins will have a positive effect.

That has always been part of the system.

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[Derek]

You say taht:

Body of work had nothing to do with it.

But ND was kept out of a bowl game, because of a loss that Syracuse suffered.
That is how body of work can adversely affect a team.

Who you win against can directly hurt you down the road.

If someone on your schedule loses their way out of being ranked (See Oregon's win over no longer ranked Arizona St).

Your opponents' losses deplete your strength of schedule.
Conversely, your opponents' wins will have a positive effect.

That has always been part of the system.

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I understand body of work. And it has nothing to do with making up rules.

[billybud]

All the teams ranked ahead of Georgia in the 2007 Final BCS had better records...

Georgia was 10-2 and #5

The four ahead of Georgia had 11 wins.

[Derek]

All the teams ranked ahead of Georgia in the 2007 Final BCS had better records...

Georgia was 10-2 and #5

The four ahead of Georgia had 11 wins.

Then why was Georgia ranked ahead of them??? Ga was at #4 and two above them lost. Your argument does not hold up. They were robbed.

Fine with that. Just don't change now to boost your ratings.

[Derek]

An article on the situation.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/933226-alabama-football-bcs-national-championship-out-of-reach-but-not-sight

[Swamp Daddy]

8 pages of IF's, WHAT iF's, MAYBE IF's, and all the other if's thrown in . My head is spinning out of control . Good thing memebers of this board are not in charge as any 10 of us can come up with 12 opinions of the way it ought to go .

And, the BCS Championship game probably would not take place until May 2012.

Swamp Daddy

[Derek]

8 pages of IF's, WHAT iF's, MAYBE IF's, and all the other if's thrown in . My head is spinning out of control . Good thing memebers of this board are not in charge as any 10 of us can come up with 12 opinions of the way it ought to go .

And, the BCS Championship game probably would not take place until May 2012.

Swamp Daddy

Indeed.

[Cane from the Bend]

It does not benefit you, I was just using your logic. If following the rules is bias, then fine.

And you are not referring to a rule. You are referring to a personal interpretation of things that have happened.

The rule you are proclaiming, simply does not exist.

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Wow....Ok......I would not have complained in 2007 because they deserved it.....but they were kept out BECAUSE they did not win the conference....FAIR ENOUGH....Nuff said. if that's the rules...FAIR ENOUGH.

I understand body of work. And it has nothing to do with making up rules.

That is not a rule.
It never has been.
It is a misinterpretation.

Did they ever say, "The rule is, you have to win your conference to be in the Championship"?
Or did they say, "Georgia is not going to play for the Championship, because the did not win their Conference"?

You are misrepresenting the rules.

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I'm not mad that Ga did not go to the NCG in 2007.

I'm mad that ESPN amongst others.....are apparently OK with rules being as flexible as Laffy taffy and applied ad hoc while others are treated differently because of their name.

Then you say,

Then why was Georgia ranked ahead of them??? Ga was at #4 and two above them lost. Your argument does not hold up. They were robbed.

Fine with that. Just don't change now to boost your ratings.

>First, point out the rule in the BCS which signifies this to be the truth.

It does not exist. It is a manipulation by the media, in order to give a temporary suffice explanation.

And that is what you got. And that is why you accepted it then.

They are not swindling you now; they swindled you in 2007.

In 2003, Oklahoma lost in humiliating fashion to Kansas State. Oklahoma was ranked #1. They were ahead of 1 loss USC, and 1 loss LSU.

Oklahoma, having 1 loss, and not winning their conference, played for the national championship against LSU.

Why?

Because USC had lost in week 6 of the season to Cal in triple overtime by 3. And because cal had finished the season 6-6 & unranked.

Whereas Kansas State was #12 at the time they beat Oklahoma,which propelled them up to rank #9.

Oklahoma had lost. Though, their loss was more forgivable in hindsight.
Not because of when or by how much they lost.

Instead, the ranking of the opponent was the determining factor.

So, the rule you are interpreting, which does not exist, is the same rule that was applied differently prior to, "Georgia being robbed".


>Second, I do not believe you are not mad. You said they got robbed. It is your opinion as such. And, by posting it, shows your dissatisfaction.

You cannot say, Georgia was robbed. Then say, you are not being a homer.
Even if you claim you are alright with it.

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I also belive the ESPN takes great joy in all of this discussion and chaos, because they will not rest until a Playoff is in place.

They are nothing more than an Agent Provocateur.

That is exactly correct.

They want nothing more than to have a playoff; as their advertisement states, "College Football Lives Here".

And if a FBS playoff were to be held; espn would get all of the right to the games.
And the Bowls would disappear; so the payout to individual schools would be less.
All of the bowl affiliates & sponsors, would want to have their names tagged on the tournament.
The extra revenue generated would go to espn, for hosting the event.

It is nothing more than a money-maker for espn.
They absolutely care nothing for these schools.

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[billybud]

LSU moved past Georgia...because LSU won the SEC, beating the team that creamed Georgia...and moved to 11 wins.

Georgia was stuck at 10-2 and fell behind the other 11 win teams.

Georgia should have beaten Tennesee to go 11-1.

[Cane from the Bend]

Now that LSU has won again. What if Georgia beats Tech and beats LSU in the SEC Championship?

This is where the system is most difficult for me, because all you have is subjectivity. But in this case Georgia would be far and away the best 2 loss team!
(They should've never played Boise and SC that early...especially SC being in conference...no warm-up. What is up with that SEC mid season "walk through" game rather than early anyway.)

How about this?

Virginia Tech wins today. Goes to the ACC title game
Georgia Tech beats Virginia Tec for the ACC title

Georgia just about had their way with Ga Tech this afternoon.

Okie State loses to Oklahoma
Stanford loses to Notre Dame

Arkansas & Oregon already have two losses.
Both lost in miserable fashion to LSU
Ark lost bad to Alabama
Oregon lost to ineligible USC

Then, what happens if Georgia beats LSU in the SEC Championship?

I guess, Georgia needs So Carolina to beat Clemson, in order to make their loss have less of a negative impact.

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[Cane from the Bend]

Now think of this:

If Boise State had remained undefeated, and had Georgia beat So Carolina - - - a Georgia win vs LSU would have some talking about a Boise St/Georgia rematch for the title.

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[Derek]

Now think of this:

If Boise State had remained undefeated, and had Georgia beat So Carolina - - - a Georgia win vs LSU would have some talking about a Boise St/Georgia rematch for the title.

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Maybe. But a rematch with LSU/Bama is not my issue. I would have no problem with an LSU/Oregon matchup again for the NC.

[Cane from the Bend]

Now think of this:

If Boise State had remained undefeated, and had Georgia beat So Carolina - - - a Georgia win vs LSU would have some talking about a Boise St/Georgia rematch for the title.

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Maybe. But a rematch with LSU/Bama is not my issue. I would have no problem with an LSU/Oregon matchup again for the NC.

A 2-loss Oregon team, who got blown out by LSU; over a 1-loss Alabama team, who lost by 3 points in overtime?

hmm...

And what if UCLA were to beat Oregon next week, for the pac-12 title?

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[Derek]

It was not a matchup, it was a hypothetical. Oregon is too far down to consider for the NCG. Just an example of two teams that have played this year.

Oklahoma State, or VT deserve a shot at the title, providing they win out.

And if they win out, will be conference champions, Alabama will not.