Urban to OSU? The liar's update timeline

[billybud]

Urban Liar timeline

November 24, 2009, Urban Meyer said in regards to a question about the soon-to-be Notre Dame job vacancy, "I'm ready to dispel it. I'm going to be the coach at Florida as long as they'll have me. So I want to make that clear." I am sure Florida fans are jumping with glee. I mean it is not like Urban has even blatantly lied before. Right? Right? Well just ask a Bowling Green or Utah fan what they think about that (these are quotes from Urban starting from when he was at Bowling Green)......
"This is a long term process (building a football program). I always say there are only about eight or 10 really good football programs where year in and year out they win."

Source: Urban Meyer Press Conference, November 13, 2002
"We are nowhere near what we can do here. That's what's driving me right now. Everybody's worried about those other places; nothing's going on."
Source: Bowling Green Sentinel, December 6, 2002

"I was contacted by one, but I'm not interested. I love it here. We have a lot of work to do. That's the bottom line."
Source: Bowling Green Sentinel, December 6, 2002

"With recruits, that's been for two years, even before we won. [They say,] 'that guy's not going to be there very long'; that's silly ... The future is fantastic here ... I'm proud to be the football coach here. Once they get to know me, know my family, know how important it is to have continuity, my kids going to school somewhere."
Source: Bowling Green Sentinel, December 6, 2002

"I think you all but guarantee that you are one of the top two, three teams in the league every year if you get that [new athletic facility] here. I feel so strong about the academics, about the community, the environment, about the people. It's the last piece; it's a significant piece."
Source: Bowling Green Sentinel, December 6, 2002

"In the words of any Bowling Green football player today: 'I thought we were your family.' Bowling Green's players are understandably angry at Meyer for leaving. Every day he would preach team loyalty. Meyer carried his we-are-family concept to the extreme, even bunking in the same dorm with the Falcons during preseason workouts."
Source: Toledo Blade, December 13, 2002

"Notre Dame is my dream job."
Source: Memory, January 1, 2003

"It [leaving Bowling Green] was one of the hardest things I've ever done. It was devastating. I didn't realize ? and maybe I wasn't thinking clearly ? but I thought it was going to be one of those things where you shake hands, give a big hug and say 'good luck.'"
Source: Deseret News, October 5, 2004

"First of all, I love it here. But I'm second fiddle. My family is No. 1, and they love it here. As long as we're filling the stadium, as long as we're continuing to grow as a program and as long as I feel these student-athletes are getting the best opportunity to be a top 25 program ? which I think it is ? I'm going to be the coach here."
Source: Deseret News, October 30, 2004

"I plan on coaching here for a long time."
Source: Deseret News, November 15, 2004

"Meyer told the New York Times last week, 'I'm chicken. It would be excruciating to leave. When I left Bowling Green, it was the worst three months.'"
Source: Deseret News, November 17, 2004

"Wrote Mike Sorenson, 'It's been well-documented that Meyer's wife, Shelley, was a big factor in Meyer taking the Utah job. She wanted to move back to the West because she enjoyed the family's time in Colorado when he was an assistant at Colorado State. Shelley and the kids seem to love the outdoor lifestyle, and she has told friends and neighbors that they aren't going anywhere.'"
Source: Deseret News, November 17, 2004

"Mike Sorenson wrote, 'Some folks may question his loyalty because he left Bowling Green after just two years. But Meyer has said, the six months after that was one of the hardest times of his life, because he felt so bad for leaving. Does he really want to go through that again just two years later?' [um, yes.]"
Source: Deseret News, November 17, 2004

"I plan on coaching at Utah next year. There's been no contact made. Period. It's almost comical. We're playing the biggest game in the history of the school and we're talking about that. That's nothing to do with nothing. [Shelley Meyer served her employer 2-weeks notice the next day.]"
Source: Deseret News, November 17, 2004

"Wrote Antony A Engligh, "Shelley will be heavily involved in Meyer's next move. 'She's a coach's wife, that's what she does for a living,' Bud Meyer said. 'It's a big job. It's a job that she (wants) to be informed, but she does a very good job.'""
Source: St. Petersburg Times, November 17, 2004

"There's been no contact and I really don't anticipate any. I'm certainly not looking for a job. I love where I'm coaching."
Source: Deseret News, November 18, 2004

"When asked by a young boy if he was going to be the coach next year, Urban replied very directly, 'I plan on being the coach at the University of Utah next year.'"
Source: Urban Meyer Coach's Show, November 18, 2004

"As long as I'm married, I'll be the coach at Utah. [exact date unknown, source is a local sports show]"
Source: Memory, November 20, 2004

"Though Meyer is frequently mentioned as a candidate for more lucurative coaching jobs, he denies any contact has been made. 'I'm not out looking, so if someone's waiting for me to pick up the phone it's not going to happen,' said Meyer. And there's little chance of that over the next four days. Meyer plans to turn his telephone off over the holiday break while he spends lost time with his family. He isn't expecting a lot of calls, anyhow. Word is out that he loves Utah, Meyer explained, and schools are funny about that. Despite speculation to the contrary, including a Florida fan-based Web site that reported a deal with Meyer has already been reached, the coach insists he represents himself. And that no talks have taken place. 'I don't have an agent. People are trying to get me to have one, but I'm just not comfortable with that kind of stuff,' said Meyer. 'I'm coaching my team and taking care of my family.'"
Source: Deseret News, November 24, 2004

"[When asked about Florida:] No. I have no real comment. All I keep saying is I plan on being the coach here at Utah."
Source: Deseret News, November 30, 2004

" It's not about prestige and it's certainly not about money. In today's climate, you don't have time to build a program. Too many coaches are let go before they can build a program."
Source: Deseret News, December 2, 2004

"I'm going to a place where I think we can really win, because no good can come of losing. Losing is never good."
Source: Deseret News, December 2, 2004

"I'm the head coach at Utah. If for some reason I'm not, I still anticipate coaching in the bowl game."
Source: Deseret News, December 3, 2004

"This was a family decision. University of Florida has been in the mix since the day, uh [pause] after our rival game. ... There was no intention to hurt a great university [Notre Dame], including this university [Utah the afterthought]."
Source: ESPN SportsCenter, December 4, 2004

"Recruiting at Utah doesn't start 'till January. That's when these kids that wanted to go to USC and UCLA find out they won't be and then the Utes get them."
Source: Press Conference, December 4, 2004

"I didn't want to put Utah into disarray. I had to do this now to protect Utah."
Source: KUTV News, December 4, 2004

"I am certainly excited about the opportunity to be the head coach at the University of Florida. There were a lot of factors that went into this decision that our entire family had to consider. The opportunity to compete at the highest level at one of the nation’s most-respected academic institutions is something that was attractive for us."
Source: GatorZone.com, December 4, 2004

"The quality of recruits within the state of Florida and the Southeast Region offers a tremendous recruiting base for us."
Source: GatorZone.com, December 4, 2004

"[Referring to Florida:] This is a place you can put your feet down hopefully for a long time."
Source: ESPN, December 7, 2004

""This is a place you can put your feet down for a long time. It's over [moving every 2 years]. I'm not doing this again."
Source: GatorSports.com, December 8, 2004

"In the words of any Bowling Green football player today: 'I thought we were your family.' Bowling Green's players are understandably angry at Meyer for leaving. Every day he would preach team loyalty. Meyer carried his we-are-family concept to the extreme, even bunking in the same dorm with the Falcons during preseason workouts."
Source: Toledo Blade, December 13, 2004

"I want to spend more time with my family"

"Im concerned about my health"

December 8th 2010:
"At this time in my life, however, I fully grasp the sacrifices my 24/7 profession has demanded of me, and I know it is time to put my focus on my family and life away from the field.

Jan 31 2011:
By David Jones, Florida Today

Less than a month after coaching his final game at Florida, Urban Meyer has a new job. ESPN announced it had hired the former Gators coach as a college football analyst.

November 23, 2011
Contacted Wednesday by ESPN, Meyer, who coached Florida to two national championships, denied that he had a deal with Ohio State.

"I have not been offered any job nor is there a deal in place," Meyer said in a statement. "I plan on spending Thanksgiving with my family and will not comment on this any further."

November 27, 2011

Urban Liar timeline

November 24, 2009, Urban Meyer said in regards to a question about the soon-to-be Notre Dame job vacancy, "I'm ready to dispel it. I'm going to be the coach at Florida as long as they'll have me. So I want to make that clear." I am sure Florida fans are jumping with glee. I mean it is not like Urban has even blatantly lied before. Right? Right? Well just ask a Bowling Green or Utah fan what they think about that (these are quotes from Urban starting from when he was at Bowling Green)......
"This is a long term process (building a football program). I always say there are only about eight or 10 really good football programs where year in and year out they win."

Source: Urban Meyer Press Conference, November 13, 2002
"We are nowhere near what we can do here. That's what's driving me right now. Everybody's worried about those other places; nothing's going on."
Source: Bowling Green Sentinel, December 6, 2002

"I was contacted by one, but I'm not interested. I love it here. We have a lot of work to do. That's the bottom line."
Source: Bowling Green Sentinel, December 6, 2002

"With recruits, that's been for two years, even before we won. [They say,] 'that guy's not going to be there very long'; that's silly ... The future is fantastic here ... I'm proud to be the football coach here. Once they get to know me, know my family, know how important it is to have continuity, my kids going to school somewhere."
Source: Bowling Green Sentinel, December 6, 2002

"I think you all but guarantee that you are one of the top two, three teams in the league every year if you get that [new athletic facility] here. I feel so strong about the academics, about the community, the environment, about the people. It's the last piece; it's a significant piece."
Source: Bowling Green Sentinel, December 6, 2002

"In the words of any Bowling Green football player today: 'I thought we were your family.' Bowling Green's players are understandably angry at Meyer for leaving. Every day he would preach team loyalty. Meyer carried his we-are-family concept to the extreme, even bunking in the same dorm with the Falcons during preseason workouts."
Source: Toledo Blade, December 13, 2002

"Notre Dame is my dream job."
Source: Memory, January 1, 2003

"It [leaving Bowling Green] was one of the hardest things I've ever done. It was devastating. I didn't realize ? and maybe I wasn't thinking clearly ? but I thought it was going to be one of those things where you shake hands, give a big hug and say 'good luck.'"
Source: Deseret News, October 5, 2004

"First of all, I love it here. But I'm second fiddle. My family is No. 1, and they love it here. As long as we're filling the stadium, as long as we're continuing to grow as a program and as long as I feel these student-athletes are getting the best opportunity to be a top 25 program ? which I think it is ? I'm going to be the coach here."
Source: Deseret News, October 30, 2004

"I plan on coaching here for a long time."
Source: Deseret News, November 15, 2004

"Meyer told the New York Times last week, 'I'm chicken. It would be excruciating to leave. When I left Bowling Green, it was the worst three months.'"
Source: Deseret News, November 17, 2004

"Wrote Mike Sorenson, 'It's been well-documented that Meyer's wife, Shelley, was a big factor in Meyer taking the Utah job. She wanted to move back to the West because she enjoyed the family's time in Colorado when he was an assistant at Colorado State. Shelley and the kids seem to love the outdoor lifestyle, and she has told friends and neighbors that they aren't going anywhere.'"
Source: Deseret News, November 17, 2004

"Mike Sorenson wrote, 'Some folks may question his loyalty because he left Bowling Green after just two years. But Meyer has said, the six months after that was one of the hardest times of his life, because he felt so bad for leaving. Does he really want to go through that again just two years later?' [um, yes.]"
Source: Deseret News, November 17, 2004

"I plan on coaching at Utah next year. There's been no contact made. Period. It's almost comical. We're playing the biggest game in the history of the school and we're talking about that. That's nothing to do with nothing. [Shelley Meyer served her employer 2-weeks notice the next day.]"
Source: Deseret News, November 17, 2004

"Wrote Antony A Engligh, "Shelley will be heavily involved in Meyer's next move. 'She's a coach's wife, that's what she does for a living,' Bud Meyer said. 'It's a big job. It's a job that she (wants) to be informed, but she does a very good job.'""
Source: St. Petersburg Times, November 17, 2004

"There's been no contact and I really don't anticipate any. I'm certainly not looking for a job. I love where I'm coaching."
Source: Deseret News, November 18, 2004

"When asked by a young boy if he was going to be the coach next year, Urban replied very directly, 'I plan on being the coach at the University of Utah next year.'"
Source: Urban Meyer Coach's Show, November 18, 2004

"As long as I'm married, I'll be the coach at Utah. [exact date unknown, source is a local sports show]"
Source: Memory, November 20, 2004

"Though Meyer is frequently mentioned as a candidate for more lucurative coaching jobs, he denies any contact has been made. 'I'm not out looking, so if someone's waiting for me to pick up the phone it's not going to happen,' said Meyer. And there's little chance of that over the next four days. Meyer plans to turn his telephone off over the holiday break while he spends lost time with his family. He isn't expecting a lot of calls, anyhow. Word is out that he loves Utah, Meyer explained, and schools are funny about that. Despite speculation to the contrary, including a Florida fan-based Web site that reported a deal with Meyer has already been reached, the coach insists he represents himself. And that no talks have taken place. 'I don't have an agent. People are trying to get me to have one, but I'm just not comfortable with that kind of stuff,' said Meyer. 'I'm coaching my team and taking care of my family.'"
Source: Deseret News, November 24, 2004

"[When asked about Florida:] No. I have no real comment. All I keep saying is I plan on being the coach here at Utah."
Source: Deseret News, November 30, 2004

" It's not about prestige and it's certainly not about money. In today's climate, you don't have time to build a program. Too many coaches are let go before they can build a program."
Source: Deseret News, December 2, 2004

"I'm going to a place where I think we can really win, because no good can come of losing. Losing is never good."
Source: Deseret News, December 2, 2004

"I'm the head coach at Utah. If for some reason I'm not, I still anticipate coaching in the bowl game."
Source: Deseret News, December 3, 2004

"This was a family decision. University of Florida has been in the mix since the day, uh [pause] after our rival game. ... There was no intention to hurt a great university [Notre Dame], including this university [Utah the afterthought]."
Source: ESPN SportsCenter, December 4, 2004

"Recruiting at Utah doesn't start 'till January. That's when these kids that wanted to go to USC and UCLA find out they won't be and then the Utes get them."
Source: Press Conference, December 4, 2004

"I didn't want to put Utah into disarray. I had to do this now to protect Utah."
Source: KUTV News, December 4, 2004

"I am certainly excited about the opportunity to be the head coach at the University of Florida. There were a lot of factors that went into this decision that our entire family had to consider. The opportunity to compete at the highest level at one of the nation’s most-respected academic institutions is something that was attractive for us."
Source: GatorZone.com, December 4, 2004

"The quality of recruits within the state of Florida and the Southeast Region offers a tremendous recruiting base for us."
Source: GatorZone.com, December 4, 2004

"[Referring to Florida:] This is a place you can put your feet down hopefully for a long time."
Source: ESPN, December 7, 2004

""This is a place you can put your feet down for a long time. It's over [moving every 2 years]. I'm not doing this again."
Source: GatorSports.com, December 8, 2004

"In the words of any Bowling Green football player today: 'I thought we were your family.' Bowling Green's players are understandably angry at Meyer for leaving. Every day he would preach team loyalty. Meyer carried his we-are-family concept to the extreme, even bunking in the same dorm with the Falcons during preseason workouts."
Source: Toledo Blade, December 13, 2004

"I want to spend more time with my family"

"Im concerned about my health"

December 8th 2010:
"At this time in my life, however, I fully grasp the sacrifices my 24/7 profession has demanded of me, and I know it is time to put my focus on my family and life away from the field.

Jan 31 2011:
By David Jones, Florida Today

Less than a month after coaching his final game at Florida, Urban Meyer has a new job. ESPN announced it had hired the former Gators coach as a college football analyst.

November 23, 2011
Contacted Wednesday by ESPN, Meyer, who coached Florida to two national championships, denied that he had a deal with Ohio State.

"I have not been offered any job nor is there a deal in place," Meyer said in a statement. "I plan on spending Thanksgiving with my family and will not comment on this any further."

Urban Liar timeline

November 24, 2009, Urban Meyer said in regards to a question about the soon-to-be Notre Dame job vacancy, "I'm ready to dispel it. I'm going to be the coach at Florida as long as they'll have me. So I want to make that clear." I am sure Florida fans are jumping with glee. I mean it is not like Urban has even blatantly lied before. Right? Right? Well just ask a Bowling Green or Utah fan what they think about that (these are quotes from Urban starting from when he was at Bowling Green)......
"This is a long term process (building a football program). I always say there are only about eight or 10 really good football programs where year in and year out they win."

Source: Urban Meyer Press Conference, November 13, 2002
"We are nowhere near what we can do here. That's what's driving me right now. Everybody's worried about those other places; nothing's going on."
Source: Bowling Green Sentinel, December 6, 2002

"I was contacted by one, but I'm not interested. I love it here. We have a lot of work to do. That's the bottom line."
Source: Bowling Green Sentinel, December 6, 2002

"With recruits, that's been for two years, even before we won. [They say,] 'that guy's not going to be there very long'; that's silly ... The future is fantastic here ... I'm proud to be the football coach here. Once they get to know me, know my family, know how important it is to have continuity, my kids going to school somewhere."
Source: Bowling Green Sentinel, December 6, 2002

"I think you all but guarantee that you are one of the top two, three teams in the league every year if you get that [new athletic facility] here. I feel so strong about the academics, about the community, the environment, about the people. It's the last piece; it's a significant piece."
Source: Bowling Green Sentinel, December 6, 2002

"In the words of any Bowling Green football player today: 'I thought we were your family.' Bowling Green's players are understandably angry at Meyer for leaving. Every day he would preach team loyalty. Meyer carried his we-are-family concept to the extreme, even bunking in the same dorm with the Falcons during preseason workouts."
Source: Toledo Blade, December 13, 2002

"Notre Dame is my dream job."
Source: Memory, January 1, 2003

"It [leaving Bowling Green] was one of the hardest things I've ever done. It was devastating. I didn't realize ? and maybe I wasn't thinking clearly ? but I thought it was going to be one of those things where you shake hands, give a big hug and say 'good luck.'"
Source: Deseret News, October 5, 2004

"First of all, I love it here. But I'm second fiddle. My family is No. 1, and they love it here. As long as we're filling the stadium, as long as we're continuing to grow as a program and as long as I feel these student-athletes are getting the best opportunity to be a top 25 program ? which I think it is ? I'm going to be the coach here."
Source: Deseret News, October 30, 2004

"I plan on coaching here for a long time."
Source: Deseret News, November 15, 2004

"Meyer told the New York Times last week, 'I'm chicken. It would be excruciating to leave. When I left Bowling Green, it was the worst three months.'"
Source: Deseret News, November 17, 2004

"Wrote Mike Sorenson, 'It's been well-documented that Meyer's wife, Shelley, was a big factor in Meyer taking the Utah job. She wanted to move back to the West because she enjoyed the family's time in Colorado when he was an assistant at Colorado State. Shelley and the kids seem to love the outdoor lifestyle, and she has told friends and neighbors that they aren't going anywhere.'"
Source: Deseret News, November 17, 2004

"Mike Sorenson wrote, 'Some folks may question his loyalty because he left Bowling Green after just two years. But Meyer has said, the six months after that was one of the hardest times of his life, because he felt so bad for leaving. Does he really want to go through that again just two years later?' [um, yes.]"
Source: Deseret News, November 17, 2004

"I plan on coaching at Utah next year. There's been no contact made. Period. It's almost comical. We're playing the biggest game in the history of the school and we're talking about that. That's nothing to do with nothing. [Shelley Meyer served her employer 2-weeks notice the next day.]"
Source: Deseret News, November 17, 2004

"Wrote Antony A Engligh, "Shelley will be heavily involved in Meyer's next move. 'She's a coach's wife, that's what she does for a living,' Bud Meyer said. 'It's a big job. It's a job that she (wants) to be informed, but she does a very good job.'""
Source: St. Petersburg Times, November 17, 2004

"There's been no contact and I really don't anticipate any. I'm certainly not looking for a job. I love where I'm coaching."
Source: Deseret News, November 18, 2004

"When asked by a young boy if he was going to be the coach next year, Urban replied very directly, 'I plan on being the coach at the University of Utah next year.'"
Source: Urban Meyer Coach's Show, November 18, 2004

"As long as I'm married, I'll be the coach at Utah. [exact date unknown, source is a local sports show]"
Source: Memory, November 20, 2004

"Though Meyer is frequently mentioned as a candidate for more lucurative coaching jobs, he denies any contact has been made. 'I'm not out looking, so if someone's waiting for me to pick up the phone it's not going to happen,' said Meyer. And there's little chance of that over the next four days. Meyer plans to turn his telephone off over the holiday break while he spends lost time with his family. He isn't expecting a lot of calls, anyhow. Word is out that he loves Utah, Meyer explained, and schools are funny about that. Despite speculation to the contrary, including a Florida fan-based Web site that reported a deal with Meyer has already been reached, the coach insists he represents himself. And that no talks have taken place. 'I don't have an agent. People are trying to get me to have one, but I'm just not comfortable with that kind of stuff,' said Meyer. 'I'm coaching my team and taking care of my family.'"
Source: Deseret News, November 24, 2004

"[When asked about Florida:] No. I have no real comment. All I keep saying is I plan on being the coach here at Utah."
Source: Deseret News, November 30, 2004

" It's not about prestige and it's certainly not about money. In today's climate, you don't have time to build a program. Too many coaches are let go before they can build a program."
Source: Deseret News, December 2, 2004

"I'm going to a place where I think we can really win, because no good can come of losing. Losing is never good."
Source: Deseret News, December 2, 2004

"I'm the head coach at Utah. If for some reason I'm not, I still anticipate coaching in the bowl game."
Source: Deseret News, December 3, 2004

"This was a family decision. University of Florida has been in the mix since the day, uh [pause] after our rival game. ... There was no intention to hurt a great university [Notre Dame], including this university [Utah the afterthought]."
Source: ESPN SportsCenter, December 4, 2004

"Recruiting at Utah doesn't start 'till January. That's when these kids that wanted to go to USC and UCLA find out they won't be and then the Utes get them."
Source: Press Conference, December 4, 2004

"I didn't want to put Utah into disarray. I had to do this now to protect Utah."
Source: KUTV News, December 4, 2004

"I am certainly excited about the opportunity to be the head coach at the University of Florida. There were a lot of factors that went into this decision that our entire family had to consider. The opportunity to compete at the highest level at one of the nation’s most-respected academic institutions is something that was attractive for us."
Source: GatorZone.com, December 4, 2004

"The quality of recruits within the state of Florida and the Southeast Region offers a tremendous recruiting base for us."
Source: GatorZone.com, December 4, 2004

"[Referring to Florida:] This is a place you can put your feet down hopefully for a long time."
Source: ESPN, December 7, 2004

""This is a place you can put your feet down for a long time. It's over [moving every 2 years]. I'm not doing this again."
Source: GatorSports.com, December 8, 2004

"In the words of any Bowling Green football player today: 'I thought we were your family.' Bowling Green's players are understandably angry at Meyer for leaving. Every day he would preach team loyalty. Meyer carried his we-are-family concept to the extreme, even bunking in the same dorm with the Falcons during preseason workouts."
Source: Toledo Blade, December 13, 2004

"I want to spend more time with my family"

"Im concerned about my health"

December 8th 2010:
"At this time in my life, however, I fully grasp the sacrifices my 24/7 profession has demanded of me, and I know it is time to put my focus on my family and life away from the field.

Jan 31 2011:
By David Jones, Florida Today

Less than a month after coaching his final game at Florida, Urban Meyer has a new job. ESPN announced it had hired the former Gators coach as a college football analyst.

November 23, 2011
Contacted Wednesday by ESPN, Meyer, who coached Florida to two national championships, denied that he had a deal with Ohio State.

"I have not been offered any job nor is there a deal in place," Meyer said in a statement. "I plan on spending Thanksgiving with my family and will not comment on this any further."

November 27, 2011

Chicago Sun-Times - 14 minutes ago

By RUSTY MILLER AP Sports Writer November 28, 2011 8:13AM COLUMBUS, Ohio — ESPN is reporting that Ohio State has hired Urban Meyer as its football coach. ...

[Spence]

Meyer has never been my choice at Ohio State. I don't think he is a great recruiter. I do think he is a good coach.

Here is the time line that I was told that started this into motion. In December Wexner had someone contact Meyers agent (this is how they say no one offered Meyer anything and Meyer never told Ohio State anything) Meyer was told the Ohio State job would be open. Meyer quit his job at Florida. Once Tressel was forced to retire (fired) in June, Meyer was offered the job (again through his agent) and he accepted assuming a contract could be worked out. Everything between then and now has just been a matter of negotiating the details. Meyer's position got stronger toward the end of the season where the Penn State job and the Arizona job opening up. That is when the rumblings of Meyer to Ohio State got leaked to the public. I don't know for sure if any of this is true, but I was told all of this in July or August (sometime before the season started) by my brother-in-law who plays golf with a lawyer (college buddy) who he said was involved in negotiations. Everything I was told would happened did happen so I tend to believe his source was good.

If this is true, then Ohio State knew at least something was going on with Tressel in December. Which I have always suspected considering that Tressel has never seemed to be a guy how got caught with his pants down. I have always believed he told Gene Smith and Gene Smith sold him down the river to save his butt.

I have also been told that as soon as the NCAA decision comes out that Gene Smith, Doug Archie from compliance, and a few others who dropped the ball in this matter are going to be sent packing, completing the house cleaning that Wexner felt needed to be done. We will see if that happens as well.

[billybud]

Urban is taking Mark Pantoni with him.

And Pantoni may be the bigger impact. Mark will be Director of Football Operations at OSU and will coordinate all recruiting efforts from OSU's standpoint.

He will organize a Friday Night Lights type of program at Ohio State and will be the main administrative interface between OSU and high school coaches.

Also, he will organize, coordinate and administer all the camps for Ohio State.

I've watched Florida's recruiting...this guy has been good. The Friday Night Lights Camp is very successful in Florida....OSU is getting a great behind the scenes guy.

[Spence]

Ohio State has had a "friday night lights" program for some time.

[donovan]

Ohio State has big looming. The pundits and apologists for Ohio State, aka, Herbstreit, who I like, act like some terrible shadow is lurking over OSU as if they were not responsible for any of it and Meyer will now come in and save the school from the unjust axe that is about ready to fall. The NCAA, like all, scavengers in to and including the Wolverine, will be relentless in their self righteous indignation. Meyer will not be the savior no matter how much Gee and Smith want to portray Tessel as the antichrist.

[Spence]

Ohio State has big looming. The pundits and apologists for Ohio State, aka, Herbstreit, who I like, act like some terrible shadow is lurking over OSU as if they were not responsible for any of it and Meyer will now come in and save the school from the unjust axe that is about ready to fall. The NCAA, like all, scavengers in to and including the Wolverine, will be relentless in their self righteous indignation. Meyer will not be the savior no matter how much Gee and Smith want to portray Tessel as the antichrist.

I think the fact that Meyer excepted the job means that the NCAA is going to except Ohio State's self punishment without much more coming. Smith, I believe is done at Ohio State. I'm not sure about Gee, although he should be. I know when this got up to the board of trustees they didn't like being embarassed like they were. Most here were proud that Ohio State football had never had a major violation. Andy Geiger, no matter what people here say, was good for Ohio State. Gene Smith has been a nightmare. He has let things happen that shouldn't have and instead of stopping it in it's track he turned his head. That wasn't how things worked here before, no matter what the perception is now. Geiger, when he was told by Jim O'Brien about the basketball violation, fired him on the spot. He didn't wait to see if it was going to go public, he didn't profess his support for the guy. He fired him, called the NCAA, and let the chips fall where they may. I guess that is what we get for hiring a guy from Notre Dame.

[Eric]

I understand why Ohio State would make an investment in Meyer, but I would be a little gunshy about his health. But, if he quit at Florida (twice!) due to his stress levels impacting his health, why would he think this won't re-occur at Ohio State? If anything, there might be more pressure. They were calling for Tressell's head before the tattoo incident because Ohio State hadn't won enough national championships.

[Spence]

I understand why Ohio State would make an investment in Meyer, but I would be a little gunshy about his health. But, if he quit at Florida (twice!) due to his stress levels impacting his health, why would he think this won't re-occur at Ohio State? If anything, there might be more pressure. They were calling for Tressell's head before the tattoo incident because Ohio State hadn't won enough national championships.

That is a concern. The biggest thing I don't like about Urban Meyer is his offense. I would rather see a Bill Walsh offense. I guess after this year, though, we will take any offense that doesn't run off tackle 92.5% of the season. He should know about the pressure aat Ohio State. He has been here before and he and Earle are very close and he knows very well what happened to Earle.

[donovan]

Just how many times and how many different people from Ohio State and the media can through Tressel under the bus that has already run him over more times than this years offense ran off tackle plays?

[Spence]

Just how many times and how many different people from Ohio State and the media can through Tressel under the bus that has already run him over more times than this years offense ran off tackle plays?

It is just like Woody. They will one day come to see him for what he really was one day - both good and bad.

[Vileborg]

All I know is that the Big 10+2 just got a lot more fun to watch and the little bit of Buckeye in me is excited. The little Wolverine in me isn't.

[Derek]

I bet Gator fans are FUMING. Good.

I personally had nothing against Ohio State, and was indifferent to them.

Sorry, but now I have a reason to not like them.