Sugar Bowl (what a joke)

[WoVeU]

I see the NC as unfair to LSU!

It is hard to beat a team twice. If you play someone more than once it should be 3 times!

[Eric]

Purdue & W. Mich - I'll admit I want to see it because of it being a board members team. Props to W. Mich.

I think it will be a great game. I'm picking Western Michigan but I don't think that is due to any homerness . I haven't been too impressed with Purdue (the way they beat Indiana especially) and I've really liked Western Michigan's offense down the stretch. Add in a de facto home game for Western and I think they'll pull off the upset.

I am considering going to the game this year. I haven't been there since 2007.

[GoBoilers]

Sugar Bowl takes Virginia Tech who just got BLASTED yesterday....and then Michigan. This system is a joke. These bowls should be able to take the best available teams. Ark is setting there at #6 in the BCS and getting left out....instead it is BCS #11 vs #13. Just crazy! And can someone explain why the Sugar did not pick Boise State over either Virginia Tech or Michigan. #6 Ark vs #7 Boise would have been a good game against higher ranked BCS teams (why not reward the teams for their seasons based on the final outcomes of the rankings). Again...just crazy!

No offense to the fans of Michigan and Virginia Tech on here. Just frustrating.

Yup, Arkansas got the big rip off this year. I think most of us also totally dislike the repeat of the SEC Championship.

[billybud]

for me...the memory of Arkansas's thrashing by Bama is still clear....then LSU thrashed the Hogs as well...lose two games in your division by 24 points each, there is not much you can say about not getting a BCS bowl. There is a rule about three from a conference...Arkansas didn't win the SEC nor was it as good as two teams in their division that are playing in a BCS game.

[RazorHawk]

for me...the memory of Arkansas's thrashing by Bama is still clear....then LSU thrashed the Hogs as well...lose two games in your division by 24 points each, there is not much you can say about not getting a BCS bowl. There is a rule about three from a conference...Arkansas didn't win the SEC nor was it as good as two teams in their division that are playing in a BCS game.

I have no problems because it is written in the rules. However, there are probably, at least 4 or 5 teams less deserving of a BCS bowl game than the Hogs.

My question is, how does the Big 12 (The Texas Conference) only get Okie St in the BCS bowls, while the ACC gets two teams in. Kansas St a 10-2 team in a conference that the computers rated as the best conference gets left out, while Virginia Tech gets in? I can't figure that out.

[Eric]

I don't see how Arkansas is clearly more deserving than Kansas State, to take one team. If one were to swap schedules, it would be entirely reasonable to assume that Kansas State would have went 10-2 on Arkansas' schedule and Arkansas could have gone 10-2 on Kansas States' schedule (Arkansas could have lost to Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and Kansas State could have beaten everybody on Arkansas' so-so schedule and gotten blown out by Alabama and LSU).

Arkansas seems like a good team to me, but all it would take for Michigan, Boise State, Virginia Tech, and Kansas State to go 10-2 would be to knock off South Carolina, beat every mediocre team you are supposed to, and get blown out by Alabama and LSU.

[RazorHawk]

I don't see how Arkansas is clearly more deserving than Kansas State, to take one team. If one were to swap schedules, it would be entirely reasonable to assume that Kansas State would have went 10-2 on Arkansas' schedule and Arkansas could have gone 10-2 on Kansas States' schedule (Arkansas could have lost to Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and Kansas State could have beaten everybody on Arkansas' so-so schedule and gotten blown out by Alabama and LSU).

Arkansas seems like a good team to me, but all it would take for Michigan, Boise State, Virginia Tech, and Kansas State to go 10-2 would be to knock off South Carolina, beat every mediocre team you are supposed to, and get blown out by Alabama and LSU.

Who said that? K State got screwed by not being in a BCS bowl. Arkansas has absolutely no claim to a BCS bowl under the rules. I question, how only one Big Texas Conference team get a BCS spot, while two ACC teams get spots.

You must reread my post, unless, someone else said something different.

[Eric]

Maybe I misinterpreted. "4 teams" could be West Virginia, Clemson, Virginia Tech, and Michigan (for some reason I included Boise State and Kansas State in that mix). Still I think my criticism could apply in the case of VT and Michigan. Maybe, maybe not.

My larger point is that Arkansas has one quality victory. Michigan has zero but has two decent wins. Virginia Tech has zero but has a couple decent wins as well. I'm just saying I don't give Arkansas a lot of credit for getting blown out by LSU and Alabama since Michigan and Virginia Tech would have as well and that there is no guarantee that Arkansas wouldn't have two losses on Michigan's or Virginia Tech's schedule. I think Arkansas is better, but that's not my point.

[RazorHawk]

I guess my point is, that when you are ranked #6 and there are there are 12 teams in BCS bowls, something does not seem right. Under the rules K State really got jobbed.

But I also stated that, according to the current rules, Arkansas has no case. K State does.

[Spence]

If UCLA would have beaten Oregon then a team with a 7-6 record would make the BCS.

[RazorHawk]

Maybe I misinterpreted. "4 teams" could be West Virginia, Clemson, Virginia Tech, and Michigan (for some reason I included Boise State and Kansas State in that mix). Still I think my criticism could apply in the case of VT and Michigan. Maybe, maybe not.

My larger point is that Arkansas has one quality victory. Michigan has zero but has two decent wins. Virginia Tech has zero but has a couple decent wins as well. I'm just saying I don't give Arkansas a lot of credit for getting blown out by LSU and Alabama since Michigan and Virginia Tech would have as well and that there is no guarantee that Arkansas wouldn't have two losses on Michigan's or Virginia Tech's schedule. I think Arkansas is better, but that's not my point.

Of the teams that you named, I think the only ones, that I could see ahead of Arkansas (Other than the AQ, which I think is part of the problem) are Boise State and Kansas State. I also have said that you must go by the current rules, so conference champs of an AQ conference should be ahead of teams that don't otherwise qualify.

I guess then I might have a problem with Va Tech and Michigan ahead of Kansas State.

[RazorHawk]

If UCLA would have beaten Oregon then a team with a 7-6 record would make the BCS.

Correct, and I don't have a problem with that under the current rules. Louisville almost made it also. If the rules spell it out, no problem. Otherwise change the rules.

[Eric]

Maybe I misinterpreted. "4 teams" could be West Virginia, Clemson, Virginia Tech, and Michigan (for some reason I included Boise State and Kansas State in that mix). Still I think my criticism could apply in the case of VT and Michigan. Maybe, maybe not.

My larger point is that Arkansas has one quality victory. Michigan has zero but has two decent wins. Virginia Tech has zero but has a couple decent wins as well. I'm just saying I don't give Arkansas a lot of credit for getting blown out by LSU and Alabama since Michigan and Virginia Tech would have as well and that there is no guarantee that Arkansas wouldn't have two losses on Michigan's or Virginia Tech's schedule. I think Arkansas is better, but that's not my point.

Of the teams that you named, I think the only ones, that I could see ahead of Arkansas (Other than the AQ, which I think is part of the problem) are Boise State and Kansas State. I also have said that you must go by the current rules, so conference champs of an AQ conference should be ahead of teams that don't otherwise qualify.

I guess then I might have a problem with Va Tech and Michigan ahead of Kansas State.

Oh I agree. I'm just saying I don't think their resume is a slam dunk. I would put them ahead of VT and Michigan though.

[billybud]

VT getting to the BCS was a sort of "sharing the wealth"...the ACC had never gotten two shares of the BCS money...The SEC has, Big Ten, Big 12....so there you have it.

I was very surprised at the Hokies selection....but I do know that they bring a crowd and that influences a bowl bid.