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Great article about Petrino

Postby Dossenator » Mon Sep 24, 2012 8:35 pm

http://m.wdrb.com/default.aspx?pid=2705 ... 3drssstory

This sums up exactly the problems that Ark is having post Petrino and the problems Louissville had post Petrino. The guy knows football, and knows how to coach. He is a top 5 coach and loved having that at Ark. Wish he had his personal life in order. Doubt Ark will be able to get top 5 talent again in the near future.
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Re: Great article about Petrino

Postby Spence » Mon Sep 24, 2012 8:43 pm

Petrino is a good football coach. He will never be a great football coach, though, because he isn't a good person. He is to "me" oriented. As a guy once said " there is no "I" in T E A M. There is, however a huge "I" in p e t r I n o.

All coaches have big egos, but most can manage to put their team and players ahead of themselves. Some can't.
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Re: Great article about Petrino

Postby billybud » Wed Sep 26, 2012 7:17 am

Urban Myer would head that list....
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Re: Great article about Petrino

Postby Spence » Wed Sep 26, 2012 7:21 am

billybud wrote:Urban Myer would head that list....


He absolutely would. That is why I have said I never liked that hire. I didn't want Ohio State to hire him the first time around when he was at Notre Dame. They didn't then.
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Re: Great article about Petrino

Postby donovan » Wed Sep 26, 2012 7:56 am

The list is not that short and unfortunately getting longer. I was looking at at my thin book collection. There is one by Steve Spurrier on humility.
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Re: Great article about Petrino

Postby Spence » Wed Sep 26, 2012 11:24 am

donovan wrote:The list is not that short and unfortunately getting longer. I was looking at at my thin book collection. There is one by Steve Spurrier on humility.


Spurrier has chapters in the "I" book.
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Re: Great article about Petrino

Postby billybud » Wed Sep 26, 2012 4:30 pm

Few had as big an ego as Bobby Bowden...he was a master of hiding it behind a folksy demeanor.

Don't get me wrong, I like Bobby. I like the fact that he is centered and has a wonderful wit, but I also know that he has a ferocious ego.
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Re: Great article about Petrino

Postby Spence » Wed Sep 26, 2012 5:49 pm

A big ego is probably a prerequisite for the job. What I don't like is coaches that keep putting themselves first - above the school and above the players. We all want a winner and I'm not sure any of us would except a "good guy" with a losing record. Problem is some of these guys are pretty sleazy, me only jerks. Petrino is probably the king of these guys. He is a great coach, though, and someone will probably give him another shot at some point. He will probably make them sorry they did.
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Re: Great article about Petrino

Postby GoBoilers » Wed Sep 26, 2012 10:35 pm

Spence wrote:A big ego is probably a prerequisite for the job. What I don't like is coaches that keep putting themselves first - above the school and above the players. We all want a winner and I'm not sure any of us would except a "good guy" with a losing record. Problem is some of these guys are pretty sleazy, me only jerks. Petrino is probably the king of these guys. He is a great coach, though, and someone will probably give him another shot at some point. He will probably make them sorry they did.

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Re: Great article about Petrino

Postby Derek » Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:39 am

billybud wrote:Few had as big an ego as Bobby Bowden...he was a master of hiding it behind a folksy demeanor.

Don't get me wrong, I like Bobby. I like the fact that he is centered and has a wonderful wit, but I also know that he has a ferocious ego.


What's you opinion of Richt?? You had him as an OC for a few years and you've had time to see him as CEO of a team, you've known him longer than me, so what say you?
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Re: Great article about Petrino

Postby Swamp Daddy » Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:48 am

Has it been long enough so that all you Arkansas fans might get a laugh out of this old blog post from 01-09-07?

http://thebrushback.com/petrino_full.htm :D

And, reread the thread I originally put this funny post in from 2007 on this board which I will post in to bring it up on the list.

Wow, how much of that thread worked out for the better and a lot of peoples predictions did come true one way or the other.

Life is strange at times. And, the huge buyout did not keep him there though he did not jump ship (but would have if a better job came up).

But in the end, Bobby was Bobby and that was all that shaped events.

And, ol'bobby seems to be popping up on a lot of short lists too. Even stranger to me given his factual track records.

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Re: Great article about Petrino

Postby billybud » Thu Sep 27, 2012 7:36 am

Derek wrote:
billybud wrote:Few had as big an ego as Bobby Bowden...he was a master of hiding it behind a folksy demeanor.

Don't get me wrong, I like Bobby. I like the fact that he is centered and has a wonderful wit, but I also know that he has a ferocious ego.


What's you opinion of Richt?? You had him as an OC for a few years and you've had time to see him as CEO of a team, you've known him longer than me, so what say you?



Richt is a Bowden disciple and does things in a Bowden like way...like Bobby, he wears his faith on his sleeve, and he remains close to the Bowden family. He was a good OC...he used what he had and was blessed during his term with explosive athletes. He did a great job bringing out Charlie Ward's strengths in the no huddle shotgun quick break offense. His fault in his last season at FSU was sometimes being stubborn and continuing too long with something that was not working.

And, he sometimes makes you scratch your head with some calls late in a game that appear to be not thought out...some can cost a game.

As a recruiter, it was hit or miss...kids either responded to his message or they didn't. He is the anti-Dabo...sometimes you may want him to show some more emotion but he isn't a rah-rah type guy.

In the SEC, you have to have the athletes to compete and I think that situation has had Coach Richt gamble and take risks with the "character issue" when recruiting that he would not normally like to take. And Georgia, like many schools, has had to deal with that.

I very much like Coach Richt and his wife Kathryn...With all of the shenanigans going on, Richt is a centered man who knows where he is and what is important. That shared kiss after the Georgia game last year was a rare public display of a private devotion to each other.

Maybe Richt has gotten tougher as a HC, but when here he wasn't "country tough" like a Jimbo or Saban. He liked finesse and scheme but didn't preach blocking. I see a difference in those coming from the Bowden school and those from the Saban school (Jimbo is a Saban disciple). The Sabanites want to hit you in the mouth, crush you. They want people pancaked at the second level. Receivers must put hats on folks or they get pulled. A real physical emphasis on offense.

I know that Jimbo has talked about changing the culture of the team...he inherited the Bowden culture. And in his three years has been on a mission to build a Saban-like team. Bigger on the lines, bigger backs, bigger receivers...and he preaches being more physical than the other guy.

Richt has had to move in Saban's direction...and his recruiting shows that he is intent on competing.....

I liked Coach Richt, I just wanted someone to light a fire under him.....looks like this year he has a fire...
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Re: Great article about Petrino

Postby Derek » Thu Sep 27, 2012 8:27 pm

billybud wrote:
Derek wrote:
billybud wrote:Few had as big an ego as Bobby Bowden...he was a master of hiding it behind a folksy demeanor.

Don't get me wrong, I like Bobby. I like the fact that he is centered and has a wonderful wit, but I also know that he has a ferocious ego.


What's you opinion of Richt?? You had him as an OC for a few years and you've had time to see him as CEO of a team, you've known him longer than me, so what say you?



Richt is a Bowden disciple and does things in a Bowden like way...like Bobby, he wears his faith on his sleeve, and he remains close to the Bowden family. He was a good OC...he used what he had and was blessed during his term with explosive athletes. He did a great job bringing out Charlie Ward's strengths in the no huddle shotgun quick break offense. His fault in his last season at FSU was sometimes being stubborn and continuing too long with something that was not working.

And, he sometimes makes you scratch your head with some calls late in a game that appear to be not thought out...some can cost a game.

As a recruiter, it was hit or miss...kids either responded to his message or they didn't. He is the anti-Dabo...sometimes you may want him to show some more emotion but he isn't a rah-rah type guy.

In the SEC, you have to have the athletes to compete and I think that situation has had Coach Richt gamble and take risks with the "character issue" when recruiting that he would not normally like to take. And Georgia, like many schools, has had to deal with that.

I very much like Coach Richt and his wife Kathryn...With all of the shenanigans going on, Richt is a centered man who knows where he is and what is important. That shared kiss after the Georgia game last year was a rare public display of a private devotion to each other.

Maybe Richt has gotten tougher as a HC, but when here he wasn't "country tough" like a Jimbo or Saban. He liked finesse and scheme but didn't preach blocking. I see a difference in those coming from the Bowden school and those from the Saban school (Jimbo is a Saban disciple). The Sabanites want to hit you in the mouth, crush you. They want people pancaked at the second level. Receivers must put hats on folks or they get pulled. A real physical emphasis on offense.

I know that Jimbo has talked about changing the culture of the team...he inherited the Bowden culture. And in his three years has been on a mission to build a Saban-like team. Bigger on the lines, bigger backs, bigger receivers...and he preaches being more physical than the other guy.

Richt has had to move in Saban's direction...and his recruiting shows that he is intent on competing....the Vanderbilt game was a revelation.

I liked Coach Richt, I just wanted someone to light a fire under him.....looks like this year he has a fire...



I can't tell you how much I agree with the last sentence. Many fans and friends have said the same thing.

Well explained Sir. Thanks for that!
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