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Week 8 BCS Standings

Postby donovan » Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:15 pm

With the ESPN SEC owned conference taking a dominant role, announced on an exclusive ESPN show with all the fanfare of an Idaho Vandal half time show, Oregon is lucky to be number three. The smartest guy around is Mr. Congrove to have refused to be part of this chicanery.
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Re: Week 8 BCS Standings

Postby billybud » Mon Oct 15, 2012 7:20 am

Hard to vote againsts the SEC...

Oregon only lost once in 2010...to an SEC team.

And Oregon lost twice last year...to USC and again to a SEC team.
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Re: Week 8 BCS Standings

Postby donovan » Mon Oct 15, 2012 9:14 am

billybud wrote:Hard to vote againsts the SEC...

Oregon only lost once in 2010...to an SEC team.

And Oregon lost twice last year...to USC and again to a SEC team.


I know...and all polls and rankings should be based on history because then, we can maintain the status quo. Speaking of that, Florida State is looking very good. Finesse will will win a lot of games and that is what I see FSU having. Certain coaches put their mark on how the team plays.
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Re: Week 8 BCS Standings

Postby billybud » Mon Oct 15, 2012 12:04 pm

Finesse will win some games...if you have a team that is Top 10 in Scoring Defense (FSU #9) and Total Defense (FSU #6).

And if you are #1 in the country on Scoring Differental...

Scoring differential

1. FSU +34.4

2. Alabama +33.0

3. Oregon +32.3

4. Oklahoma + 26.2

and if you are #1 in Yardage Differential

Yardage differential

1. FSU +308.57

2. Texas Tech +294.33

3. Alabama +241.83

4. Oklahoma State +230.6

5. Oklahoma +206.2

6. Oregon +181.84

But you can't win on finesse alone. You have to be able to rush (and that is old fashioned putting hats on defenders)...and play defense.

Yards Per Rush Attempt

1. FSU
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Re: Week 8 BCS Standings

Postby billybud » Mon Oct 15, 2012 12:41 pm

donovan wrote:
billybud wrote:Hard to vote againsts the SEC...

Oregon only lost once in 2010...to an SEC team.

And Oregon lost twice last year...to USC and again to a SEC team.


I know...and all polls and rankings should be based on history because then, we can maintain the status quo. Speaking of that, Florida State is looking very good. Finesse will will win a lot of games and that is what I see FSU having. Certain coaches put their mark on how the team plays.



The status quo seems to be working for the SEC hype machine....

How do you get 6 teams in the top 12 when they play and lose to each other? Simple, you hype them all from the season's beginning and then when #10 uf beats #4 LSU, "oh, that's not that bad of a loss, it's to a top 10 team". Or when #9 LSU beats #3 South Carolina "oh, that's not that bad of a loss, it's a top 10 team.

Right now every team in the country is fighting an uphill battle if they are not in the SEC, and this is the STEEPEST hill yet of the BCS era.

It's a conspiracy, I tell ya.
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Re: Week 8 BCS Standings

Postby Eric » Mon Oct 15, 2012 2:13 pm

billybud wrote:Finesse will win some games...if you have a team that is Top 10 in Scoring Defense (FSU #9) and Total Defense (FSU #6).

And if you are #1 in the country on Scoring Differental...

Scoring differential

1. FSU +34.4

2. Alabama +33.0

3. Oregon +32.3

4. Oklahoma + 26.2

and if you are #1 in Yardage Differential

Yardage differential

1. FSU +308.57

2. Texas Tech +294.33

3. Alabama +241.83

4. Oklahoma State +230.6

5. Oklahoma +206.2

6. Oregon +181.84

But you can't win on finesse alone. You have to be able to rush (and that is old fashioned putting hats on defenders)...and play defense.

Yards Per Rush Attempt

1. FSU



I'm not saying Florida State doesn't necessarily have one of the best defenses in the country or that they don't have a great team, but the Murray State and Savannah State games are some real stat outliers. I realize other teams have played cupcakes, but I think time will sort this out some more.

Florida State is in a great position though because, at least from what I've seen, they, NC State, and Maryland are literally the only teams I've seen so far in the conference that are able to field a defense. If you take into consideration that FSU has the best offense out of that group by lightyears, they only have two possible losses in the future against Virginia Tech (at Blacksburg on a Thursday night, you never know) and Florida. I wouldn't take the ACC Coastal champ on a neutral field against the Noles this year either.
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Re: Week 8 BCS Standings

Postby Eric » Mon Oct 15, 2012 2:17 pm

I never watch the BCS shows because it's all just melodrama at this point. Let's wait until the last two weeks of November before we really start to analyze where teams are at in the computer polls. The season will sort itself out to a large extent, with the SEC teams knocking each other off and Oregon getting to face Stanford, USC, Oregon State, and then USC again. Notre Dame will go to Oklahoma and to USC, so their national title fate will either be earned or they'll fall by the wayside and go to the Orange Bowl or something.
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Re: Week 8 BCS Standings

Postby billybud » Mon Oct 15, 2012 4:06 pm

I see that the #2 and #5 ranked teams in the BCS were the last two teams that FSU played last year....wins..but tough games because both Florida and Notre Dame had good defenses.
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Re: Week 8 BCS Standings

Postby donovan » Mon Oct 15, 2012 7:21 pm

billybud wrote:
donovan wrote:
billybud wrote:Hard to vote againsts the SEC...

Oregon only lost once in 2010...to an SEC team.

And Oregon lost twice last year...to USC and again to a SEC team.


I know...and all polls and rankings should be based on history because then, we can maintain the status quo. Speaking of that, Florida State is looking very good. Finesse will will win a lot of games and that is what I see FSU having. Certain coaches put their mark on how the team plays.



The status quo seems to be working for the SEC hype machine....

How do you get 6 teams in the top 12 when they play and lose to each other? Simple, you hype them all from the season's beginning and then when #10 uf beats #4 LSU, "oh, that's not that bad of a loss, it's to a top 10 team". Or when #9 LSU beats #3 South Carolina "oh, that's not that bad of a loss, it's a top 10 team.

Right now every team in the country is fighting an uphill battle if they are not in the SEC, and this is the STEEPEST hill yet of the BCS era.

It's a conspiracy, I tell ya.


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Re: Week 8 BCS Standings

Postby Spence » Mon Oct 15, 2012 9:52 pm

I think it is was wrong for two teams from the same conference to play in the BCS championship. That did have something to do with the espn hype machine. It also had to do with the SEC's top teams winning the last gazillion championships. It is hard to argue with having several SEC teams ranked highly, though, based on the recent past. Even when they don't look that great this year as a group.

I haven't gotten to see all top teams this year. I haven't seen Oregon yet. I haven't seen Florida yet. Florida State played bad, but won the game I saw. They look pretty good on both sides, but especially offense. Alabama looks very good to me. LSU, I think is over - rated this year. There is no good B-10 team. Notre Dame is good on both sides of the ball, as bad as I hate to admit it. Stanford is good. USC is shaky on the DLine. West Virginia has as bad a defense as their offense is good. Oklahoma is decent. Not great. I haven't seen KState play yet either.
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Re: Week 8 BCS Standings

Postby donovan » Tue Oct 16, 2012 6:26 am

I agree. If you want a National Champion game you would take the winner of the Conferences and put them in a playoff bracket. That is what is done in every sport I know. Would it be the two best teams...maybe not..but that is the way it is.
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Re: Week 8 BCS Standings

Postby Derek » Tue Oct 16, 2012 5:12 pm

I think Florida being ranked #2 already is definitely silly.

They have won NOTHING impressively, except for Kentucky.

And speaking of Kentucky, I'm tired of all the games getting called this year. They called off a kentucky game, Fla St.....next we won't keep score.

There is a LOT of players on 2nd/3rd string that are not gonna get to play because of this, and it's silly. IMO.
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Re: Week 8 BCS Standings

Postby billybud » Tue Oct 16, 2012 9:13 pm

Huh?

As far as FSU goes, they have played more from the bench than almost anybody in the country....when you see TRUE freshmen play like Darby, Casher, Northrup, Mario Edwards, Beaty, Brutus, Goldman,and Williams...you know that FSU is playing everybody.
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Re: Week 8 BCS Standings

Postby Dossenator » Tue Oct 16, 2012 11:58 pm

Derek wrote:And speaking of Kentucky, I'm tired of all the games getting called this year. They called off a kentucky game, Fla St.....next we won't keep score.

There is a LOT of players on 2nd/3rd string that are not gonna get to play because of this, and it's silly. IMO.


Well, I was at the Ark vs Kentucky game and they made the right call to stop the game. Severe storms....unaware at the time but during the 2nd weather delay a tornado was on the ground less than 20 miles north of the stadium. It was a nasty drive home in the dark (the tornado touched down in Rogers...the town I live in). The lightning was extremely close to the stadium, and during the second weather delay the rain started coming down so hard you could not see. I had to pull off the road twice on my drive home. The storm lasted all night. No way they could have restarted the game. And the NCAA has a new rule this year that a game can not be restarted after midnight coming out of a weather delay (put into place after a long Ok State game last year). I too wanted to see the young guys get playing time....not to mention I paid good money for season tickets and I only received 2 1/2 quarters of football. But they did make the right decision to call the game.
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