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Re: I Don't Even Care at This Point

Postby Eric » Mon Nov 25, 2013 12:53 am

Spence wrote:I think Ohio State will win but Michigan will get yards against the Buckeye D because everyone does. I just don't think the Michigan defense can stop Ohio State. It will be closer than people think.


As long as your defensive line is as good as Northwestern's or Iowa's, Michigan should self-detonate. :cry:
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Re: I Don't Even Care at This Point

Postby Spence » Mon Nov 25, 2013 1:04 am

The defensive line is good. Michigan will need take some quick hitters and screens to move the ball. If Gardner holds the ball too long or the coaches call a play that takes too long to develop he will get crushed. Where Ohio State gets hurt is the medium length passes and curl routes along with screens. Ohio State is pretty good against the run. The red zone will be tough to navigate.
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Re: I Don't Even Care at This Point

Postby billybud » Mon Nov 25, 2013 7:51 am

Oregon vs Clemson in the Orange would be like having two mirrors opposed.

Clemson, though, has a limited defense...gave up 51 on FSU and 35 on GT.
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Re: I Don't Even Care at This Point

Postby donovan » Mon Nov 25, 2013 1:29 pm

Helfrich lost control of his players attitudes. I do not think you can get that back this season. Oregon State is a erratic team in their performance, but they are united is spirit. I think the Civil war is up for grabs. On paper the Ducks have a distinct advantage, but the game will not be played on paper. Oregon's "meltdowns" have not been handled well by the staff.
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Re: I Don't Even Care at This Point

Postby Spence » Mon Nov 25, 2013 3:34 pm

donovan wrote:Helfrich lost control of his players attitudes. I do not think you can get that back this season. Oregon State is a erratic team in their performance, but they are united is spirit. I think the Civil war is up for grabs. On paper the Ducks have a distinct advantage, but the game will not be played on paper. Oregon's "meltdowns" have not been handled well by the staff.


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Re: I Don't Even Care at This Point

Postby Cane from the Bend » Mon Nov 25, 2013 8:53 pm

Eric wrote: Michigan's offense probably leads the nation in "almost-interceptions".


You must not watch Miami's offense very much, then.


Spence wrote:I think Helfrich is going to be better than Kelly in the end, but I agree that he shouldn't have allowed that to happen. That was John Cooper's problem at Ohio State. He didn't have full control of his players. Helfrich has to fix that.


Sounds like Mack Brown, Dana Holgorsen, Pat Fitzgerald, Denis Erickson, and, unfortunately, quite possibly Al Golden.


donovan wrote:Helfrich lost control of his players attitudes.


That sounds like Larry Coker & Lane Kiffin


Old Ducker wrote:Frankly I'm hoping the Ducks end up in the Alamo Bowl. I live in Houston now and San Antonio is just a couple of hours drive from here :)


Ah, yes ... a selfish rationale.

The true mark of the NCAA spirit.

I'm right there with you on this one. If I had my way, Miami would play notre dame in Indianapolis for their bowl game --- Why Indianapolis, instead of right here in South Bend . . ? Simple ... It's too godforsaken cold to watch Miami lose in the snow. At least in Indy it would be inside a dome.


Eric wrote:I think Michigan will be either Texas or Buffalo Wild Wings which probably narrows our opponents down to Kansas State or Texas Tech. The Gator Bowl would be a possibility. Can't say I'm looking forward to the postseason.


If so, then I would think a Kansas St match up would make for a decent game. The Wildcats have been all over the place this season, and are probably less consistent than Michigan.

Texas Tech, on-the-other-hand, has looked good when they play well. But look destitute when they lose momentum. After their first loss, they seemed to fall apart. But, they have also shown they can actually pick themselves back up. I would suspect, also, that Michigan's D would have a hard time keeping pace with the Red Raiders. A good defense can press them ... I just don't believe the Wolverines have what it would take to slow that team down. The game would stay close for the first quarter and a half, then, Texas Tech would start distancing themselves, with a couple of quick scores just before halftime.


Spence wrote:I think Ohio State will win but Michigan will get yards against the Buckeye D because everyone does. I just don't think the Michigan defense can stop Ohio State. It will be closer than people think.


Yes, Ohio St will win by 29, instead of 30.

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Re: I Don't Even Care at This Point

Postby Spence » Mon Nov 25, 2013 9:11 pm

It is supposed to be very cold this weekend. If it is there will likely be a ton of screen's and running plays. It is November in the B-10, the rock will be hard, three yards and a cloud of dust for a week. Then back to Meyer's brand of football under the dome in two weeks.
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Re: I Don't Even Care at This Point

Postby Cane from the Bend » Tue Nov 26, 2013 4:23 pm

At least Meyer has coached in this climate in his previous jobs.

He won't be so ignorant to expect his team to force the plays they're use to.

There are some others who just do not get it ... which is why good teams can look silly; in a game riddled with turnovers.

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Re: I Don't Even Care at This Point

Postby Spence » Tue Nov 26, 2013 6:20 pm

Cane from the Bend wrote:At least Meyer has coached in this climate in his previous jobs.

He won't be so ignorant to expect his team to force the plays they're use to.

There are some others who just do not get it ... which is why good teams can look silly; in a game riddled with turnovers.

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Yeah Bowling Green weather is very close to Michigan weather and Meyer grew up in Ashland so he knows all about the cold weather adjustments. Cold or Warm weather doesn't matter as far as talent, it is just a matter of experience and knowing how to handle each.
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Re: I Don't Even Care at This Point

Postby Dossenator » Wed Nov 27, 2013 1:19 am

You don't care....what do you think it is like to be a Razorback fan right now. Hey, at least we are setting records: Arkansas just lost their 8th straight for the first time in school history!!!! And if they do not beat LSU friday it will be the first time they do not have at least 1 conference win in a season...in school history!!!!

Bobby Petrino, with as good as he was with X's and O's was not doing his job of recruiting (we know what he was doing on those recruiting trips now). Less than half of the two classes he brought to campus that would be juniors and seniors this year are on campus. And most of the ones that are still around do not play, or contribute very little.

And the John L. Smith experiment last year just made things worse. His behavior was downright embarrassing (examples: after a loss press conference http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-nQLd6z9OU and that was just the tip of the iceberg). The man is crazy!!!

No coach this year could have won. It will take time to clean up the mess Bobby left them in. Tons of talented freshman played this year...and Alex Collins RB is going to be a star.

I feel like Razorback fans may be morphing into Cub fans....the whole 'wait till next year' is creeping into our sports lingo.
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Re: I Don't Even Care at This Point

Postby Eric » Wed Nov 27, 2013 2:02 am

I realize most teams have it worse, but at least we had a pretty good idea that Arkansas would be in a bit of a rebuilding mode. There is at least some amount of optimism for the future that things may turn around. I personally don't feel that Bielema is the answer, but Arkansas won't be this poor in time. With Michigan, we had some expectations that things would progressively get better under Hoke and as it turns out, it's gotten progressively worse. It's hard to have a positive attitude about the future when a downward trend starts to appear. When this year is over, it appears that Hoke will also have a losing record against Michigan State, Ohio State, and in bowl games after three seasons. It's not fun.

To sum up, I think we're both justified in being upset and disappointed :lol:
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Re: I Don't Even Care at This Point

Postby Spence » Wed Nov 27, 2013 6:14 am

I don't think Bielema is the answer either. People do not realize how much involvement Alvarez has during his tenure at Wisconsin. I hope Arkansas doesn't give him much rope for their sake.
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Re: I Don't Even Care at This Point

Postby RazorHawk » Wed Nov 27, 2013 10:31 am

Eric wrote:I realize most teams have it worse, but at least we had a pretty good idea that Arkansas would be in a bit of a rebuilding mode. There is at least some amount of optimism for the future that things may turn around. I personally don't feel that Bielema is the answer, but Arkansas won't be this poor in time. With Michigan, we had some expectations that things would progressively get better under Hoke and as it turns out, it's gotten progressively worse. It's hard to have a positive attitude about the future when a downward trend starts to appear. When this year is over, it appears that Hoke will also have a losing record against Michigan State, Ohio State, and in bowl games after three seasons. It's not fun.

To sum up, I think we're both justified in being upset and disappointed :lol:
I think given the necessary 3 or 4 years, Bielema will prove to be a good hire for the Hogs. As Doss, accurately stated, the Hogs actually lost 2 recruiting classes due to the timing of the Petrino firing and the JL Smith experiment. I hope Arkansas will have more patience with Bielema than Michigan did with Rich Rodriguez, as the competition for Arkansas is a little more difficult than it is for Michigan.

I really laugh when Wisconsin fans, state they were glad that he left, which was only brought on after he left them for Arkansas. They weren't talking like this, when he took them to 3 straight Rose Bowls. It also would appear, based on their success in Madison, that he left their program in pretty good shape.
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Re: I Don't Even Care at This Point

Postby Spence » Wed Nov 27, 2013 11:48 am

Alvarez was a very hands on AD when it came to football. You are right that Wisconsin was in good shape when he left them. But there was a reason everyone in B-10 country called him Bert.
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Re: I Don't Even Care at This Point

Postby RazorHawk » Wed Nov 27, 2013 6:51 pm

Spence wrote:Alvarez was a very hands on AD when it came to football. You are right that Wisconsin was in good shape when he left them. But there was a reason everyone in B-10 country called him Bert.

Most all the opposing fans do not like Bielema. That is a good sign in my eyes.
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