Boise State vs. San Jose State

[Cane from the Bend]

I don't have it in me to count. I am surpised by how many Pitt has won, but I think for the most part what I said would pan out.

I agree with you, but that is not reality. How many teams have won the NC more than one time in history? I never looked this up, but I would bet you or I or anyone could name the teams.

You know, sometime I wonder if you post things like that, just to see if I'll put this info up there

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[Spence]

Actually Cane, sometimes I wonder if I can even read all of your post.

[Cane from the Bend]

Actually Cane, sometimes I wonder if I can even read all of your post.

Yea, well, I've shortened my content since the sparklit site... probably has to do with the 1 hour time cap I was under when I had to rely on the library for internet access, back when my pc burnt out.

Either way, all of the text book sized drafts that I used to respond with, were only a warm up; as I have noticed a few others have taken up where I left off.

Donovan & Billybud have, at times, put up some indexes as well. A couple others, too.

pretty sure Spence is more into College football then I am and that's saying something. He does love his buckeyes and who does not love their team. For years I have been one of the only Pac 10 guys here and it's rough at times. It's all fun.No bad comments at anyone, all good debate.

I feel ya; when I first joined with this group 9 years ago ( man time drifts by ), I was the only Big East / Hurricanes fan, and I took a lot of flack...

Of course, many have come and gone in that time, and College Football has changed quite a bit, with Conference realignments & major programs going through the motions...

After the `Canes won in 2001, there was a sudden rise in would be Miami fans. Haven't seen many since 2005.

Being in the lesser %ile of a larger group can have its draw backs.

Then again, it can also be fun ( like you mention ).

One thing a site like this does, is allow for rational discussion on these topics.

Not much flaming going back & forth. A couple of hotly debated topics, but handled in a rather civil manner.

But, this site has also given some of us who wouldn't normally care, an invested interest into each others favorite teams.

Making good associations has helped me to become more patient with regards to my natural instinct, which was to just blow up when I felt I was being disrespected; or my team was.

I still have that fire in me... though, I am a bit more tame than in the past.

And teams I would normally hate, I more readily give chances to.

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[Spence]

It wouldn't be you if it was concise.

[WoVeU]

I know one thing for sure...coming here...changes the hating and the joys of hating. I still pull for USC, Miami, and Ohio State to lose when I think it will make a notable difference to WVU getting a shot...but it ain't the same. I throw my arms in the air when Florida loses, then I think of Shands...it greatly lessens my joy!

Heck, it didn't really me bother me when WVU lost to FSU last year. Between BB and it being Bobby's last year, honestly a part of me was really happy for them!

But I am drawing the line if we get a Notre Dame guy...I will not have that deep soul warming hate taken from me! A guy has to make a stand!

[silverfox]

Hmmm. My favorites besides the Broncos are LSU, Alabama and Stanford.

[billybud]

LOL at WovU...

Yeah...the board does change ya! I was bred to hate Gators. Have hated them for a lifetime. Have duked it out on the field with their fans when they tried to take down our goal posts (1982) and we all left the stands.

Yet, I find it hard not to be cordial to Shands.

[Spence]

LOL at WovU...

Yeah...the board does change ya! I was bred to hate Gators. Have hated them for a lifetime. Have duked it out on the field with their fans when they tried to take down our goal posts (1982) and we all left the stands.

Yet, I find it hard not to be cordial to Shands.

i still don't like Michigan, but Eric is a good guy. I'm sure Ohio State is no where near the top of his list either.

[silverfox]

So what happened to sportsmanship conduct off the field. That is what we are all here for -- to support and rate the teams and yes, we all have our favorites or we would not even be here.

I speak my mind cuz I am proud of what my team is and has accomplished besides whatever the outcome is.

To be cordial is to respect others even if they differ from your opinions -- well I respect everyone on these boards.

But the fact of the matter is the current system is so broke it makes people go after everyone elses necks.

What ever happened to civility? We can't control what goes on on the field no more than we can control who schedules whom.

To the "old guard" they resent the fact that the system has tried to adjust itself to allow the "new guard" the opportunity to play with them. To the "new guard" they resent the fact that it is so hard to play with the "good ol' boys" cuz they are unwanted. Not because they are bad, but simply because they are upseting the "old ways".

The BCS is screwed up. It needs to be fixed.

This year is a major transition year -- I suspect one way or another changes will occur.

Friction always results in change -- Jefferson as one of our founding fathers of this great country recognized that and respected that.

The dinosaur is now extinct. So be it!

[Vileborg]

I have my team but I've, as has been said, begun to pull for other teams. Ohio St., Georgia, Florida St. (Most of the time), Texas, Nebraska, Penn St., Oregon, Notre Dame, Michigan, Purdue, and college football. The above I'll usually check their scores and maybe watch a few minutes of their games if I can. Most of the rest I have no interest in watching and that includes Boise St., I respect their program and I think they've got a great coach, but I have no interest in watching them play.

My Saturdays are spent watching the teams I named above and any premiere match-ups or pick'em games.

EDIT: I really do understand what Billy and others are saying I understand their point, and I don't expect them to change their mind. For the most part I think their logic is fundamentally sound. You don't want a powderpuff playing a light schedule to go undefeated and take someones opportunity at a national championship. I'm not giving Utah any credibility, not giving a whole lot to TCU, I've actually got them ranked higher than I necessarily feel they should be ranked, but I think Boise St. is different.

I blame the bowls for this too. If Boise St. had been asked to play Florida last year we probably wouldn't be having this argument, but since they got TCU instead we really don't know how this team stacks up against a top tier SEC team.

[silverfox]

yep

[silverfox]

I have my team but I've, as has been said, begun to pull for other teams. Ohio St., Georgia, Florida St. (Most of the time), Texas, Nebraska, Penn St., Oregon, Notre Dame, Michigan, Purdue, and college football. The above I'll usually check their scores and maybe watch a few minutes of their games if I can. Most of the rest I have no interest in watching and that includes Boise St., I respect their program and I think they've got a great coach, but I have no interest in watching them play.

My Saturdays are spent watching the teams I named above and any premiere match-ups or pick'em games.

And that, my friend, is a good thang...

[warrriorsfan808]

Alabama is to South Carolina as Boise State is to _________________.

Answer: Hawaii ( no surprise there )

By the way the island of Oahu has 3 highways classified as interstates-- the H1, H2, H3 are all interstate highways. BB you might just become an insomeniac

No offense Donovan, but what kind of scrambled up mess would there be if HAWAII pulled off the unthinkable? Well App. State did it a few years ago.

[donovan]

Alabama is to South Carolina as Boise State is to _________________.

Answer: Hawaii ( no surprise there )

By the way the island of Oahu has 3 highways classified as interstates-- the H1, H2, H3 are all interstate highways. BB you might just become an insomeniac

No offense Donovan, but what kind of scrambled up mess would there be if HAWAII pulled off the unthinkable? Well App. State did it a few years ago.

It's a game. I am on record believing Boise State will not go undefeated...someone has to do it. As for the interstates..at least you keep it simple.

[donovan]

Saying 'someone, somewhere, sometime' will stage an upset is pretty worthless...there are nearly infinite ways you can win that bet and only one way you can lose...upsets of all kinds happen all of the time...it's NORMAL to have upsets...vegas knows this, the computers (usually) know this, but for some reason fans seem to have a hard time understanding it (including alumni/boosters)...if a team plays a lot of games, they will lose some...that is why Alabama lost but is still top 10 in nearly every poll...the example was given with Michigan losing to Appalachian St., but then having a good year and beating Tebow's Gators in a bowl...MANY national champions pre-BCS NC game were not undefeated...only one NFL team EVER has been undefeated...in sports with many more games played, like basketball, it's nearly unheard of to be undefeated...also, as the season, and 'post-season' has expanded, it would be expected to see more losses...and, as 'power conferences' have grown, so too fewer of those have gone undefeated...someone referred to independents who went to conferences and their overall worse performance/records...matching the approximate #1and #2 in a bowl game and other contenders in BCS games has reduced this further...last season there were two undefeated teams at the end...of 120 total...previously many teams finished the season undefeated prior to the BCS.

I have been known to be pretty worthless....I will hope I can see a couple of more football games to reach a modicum of your understanding and depth, chooseaspy.